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Discussion in 'Sports Bar' started by 10000 Days, Jan 20, 2018.
Mark derp to Faust.
So pippen better than Kobe and Kobe twice as good as MJ.
Why the fuck did Pippen need team mates?? 1 vs 5 mother fuckers
Curry's the best #2
The Nash and Barkley one might be a bit of stretch. Mostly because their time with the Suns is separated by a decade.
If we aren’t talking Jordan/Pippen, then the next logical dynamic duo was Stockton/Malone.
Could of sworn they played together
The timing was really close as it seems like Barkley and Nash played with each other as teammates in Phoenix but they never did. Honest mistake.
Nash was drafted by the Suns on June '96; Barkley was traded to the Rockets from the Suns on August '96. Techincally, they were teammates for 2 months lol.
Fun fact: Barkley had 2 years left in his contract, while the 4 players he was traded for (Robert Horry, Mark Bryant, Sam Cassell and Chucky Brown) all had their final year on their contracts. So all four players the Suns got became free agents after the season.
At the time Sir Charles was a wrecking machine. I miss those days.
Nash never played with Barkley
Yes, he's easily the greatest Dick Grayson (or whatever version of Robin is greatest).
Certainly as the #2 for as long as he was. McHale is up there as well. So is Worthy (problem for them is Parrish and Kareem are such good #3's, it's not like having a defense/rebounding master like Rodman/Grant as #3). Kareem in the early 80's is another choice. Back in the day I guess Cousey wins that running away, but it's best to stick to post-merger NBA as the early days were not on par. Young Kobe probably closest.
Flare up teams that didn't last (or didn't last on top) you have guys like Dr. J, Wade, Pierce, Curry, Pau, Dumars that won titles as #2. Most other championship teams in the post merger era either didn't have a great #2 (Robert Horry on Houston, Old Shaq on the Heat, Old Drexler on Houston again, Jason Terry or Tyson Chandler on Dallas) or didn't have a clear cut #2 like the Spurs teams or the Billups/Wallace/Wallace/Hamilton team in the '00's (who is #1 or #2 on that team? You can say Billups because of FMVP, but he wasn't clear cut #1 on that squad. Wasn't the primary scorer or defender).
If you include guys who didn't win the title (don't know how they could exceed Pippen, this is basketball, not football or baseball. Rings matter in GOAT discussions), Stockton seems like the most clear contender.
I'd probably stick with Pippen for total body of work as #2.
Laimbeer was a great troll and enforcer, but he wasn't the second best player on that team. Dumars was a better scorer (as were others), Rodman was his equal on defense and the boards.
To be fair, by the time MJ totally left Pippen was old AF
The year MJ retired, Pip still balled:
Michael Jordan retired before the 1993–94 season and in his absence Pippen emerged from Jordan's shadow. That year, he earned All-Star Game MVP honors and led the Bulls in scoring, assists, and blocks, and was second in the NBA in steals per game, averaging 22.0 points, 8.7 rebounds, 5.6 assists, 2.9 steals, and 0.8 blocks per game, while shooting 49.1% from the field and a career-best 32% from the 3-point line. For his efforts, he earned the first of three straight All-NBA First Team selections, and he finished third in MVP voting. The Bulls (with key additions of Toni Kukoč, Steve Kerr and Luc Longley) finished the season with 55 wins, only two fewer than the year before.