Is Kings MMA or Hooft's Combat Club the Best Striking Camp in MMA Right Now?

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  1. Gabe Saturdays are for the Boys

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    Notable Kings Fighters:
    Fabricio Werdum
    Lyoto Machida
    Kelvin Gastelum
    Beneil Dariush
    Jake Ellenberger

    Notable Fighters under Hooft:
    Volkan Oezdemir
    Luke Rockhold
    Robbie Lawler
    Matt Mitrione
    Kamaru Usman

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    Thoughts?
     
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    Rafael Cordeiro turns people who don't know how to throw punches into legit strikers.
     
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    Imagine if they made King Hoofts MMA Club
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    That would be unquestionably insane.
     
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    Lol mma noob never heard of Glendale Fighting Club.
     
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    Cordeiro turned fighters like RDA, Werdum, Gastelum and Dariush into legit dangerous strikers. All those guys were primarily grapplers with OK to shitty striking.

    Even though Lyoto has been in a little of a downhill, his striking was really refined by Cordeiro. Lyoto used a lot of muay thai, boxing and kick boxing techniques against Mousasi in his 2014 fight. That was a lot due to Cordeiro's ability and Lyoto's humble acceptance
     
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    If one is from Kings MMA, does that make you a kingsman?
     
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    Those are definitely the two best striking gyms.

    I am not sure who is better between those two camps. Very hard to decide because they are both great. Maybe I will lean slightly toward Kings because Cordeiro has turned pure grapplers into very dangerous strikers like Dariush and Werdum. I loved RDA when he was at Kings too.

    Everybody at Kings really improves their kicking game. The low kicks and body kicks.


    Kings is my pick
     
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    Even though hes semi retired, you have to include Rumble on Hoofts list

    And no mention of Michael Johnson either?
     
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    Werdum outstruck Overeem in some rounds in their fights, so Codeiro is my pick.
     
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    A very slight edge to combat club because guys get injured less there, but Cordero is the best at blending pressure kickboxing and jiujitsu
     
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    I’m going with Cordeiro because he seems like a better cornerman, whereas Hooft just yells “don’t give up” without giving actual instructions (when his fighter is not performing well).

    I know this thread was about which is the better striking camp, but to me, if you teach someone striking but don’t follow through when they’re losing the fight, you (as a camp) lose value.
     
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    Hard to decide they both have strong cases:

    Rumble not being outstruck for a while.

    Michael johnson having great footwork to make up for his weird punching technique.

    While freaking Cordeiro turns a man who used to throw slaps into a legit striker (not counting his fight against stipe, thats a shitty fight iq thing).
     
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    GOAT stand up coach!!

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    Ronda is whooping up on pro boxers at GFC{<RR}
     
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    Wherever Ray Sefo coaches. People overlook this, but TRTVitor was a product of Ray Sefo. Sefo was working with Vitor a lot during that time, which is when he started KOing people with spin kicks.
     
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    Kings. Several of those hooft bums are punching bags with absolutely horrific defense.
     
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    None of the above.

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