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I'm a brown belt now and almost every time Ive ever been hurt while training has been while going at a relaxed pace with a overaggressive white belt. At white belt I only hurt myself.
I'm a brown belt now and almost every time Ive ever been hurt while training has been while going at a relaxed pace with a overaggressive white belt. At white belt I only hurt myself.
I never thought there was a point to going easy on lower belts unless they are going flow roll back. Some people will say higher belts have a responsibility to teach lower belts, but as long as you are paying to train, I say no. Lower belts are there to practice on, not to help out. If a lower belt is very aggressive, I say light them up, over and over.
I see what you are saying, but there is a point as far as trying not to scare off new people goes. Especially from a business perspective. I want who ever I'm rolling with to at least have a good enough time to want to come back.
That said I do turn it up now and try to get a quick dominant submission quickly. If they turn it down I do with them. Since this change I've had less injuries.
I make it a point to try to get the most out of everyone I roll with while helping to make them better in the process. The faster they improve the more of a benefit they'll be to me in the long run. Tapping a white belt 5 times or more in five minutes doesn't really mean all that much to me.
I'm a white belt and I train 2-3 times a week. Every time I spar with white belts, they tend to go to the max the more I go harder. It was virtually impossible for me to work on my proper offense, guard and drill techniques, submissions and everything that was taught during class before sparring.
The only thing I can do is turn it into a weight lifting contest and try hop to the top position by holding their arms, lift my hip and turn then figuring out what to do next but end up feeling lost. Rinse, rise and repeat.
The purple and the higher level guys are a bit lazy and tend to lay on the floor waiting for me to do something. They go slower, smoother and doing unexpected submission. They would fix my technique and go "wow, that's good" on me whenever I try use submission or escape guard. I like that, it would help improve my drills unlike these white belts.
That’s true, but I’m not running the business. If I’m a paying customer, I’m not working for the guy I’m paying.
If you are going to cut me a discount as an instructor, sure, but otherwise I feel it is highly inappropriate to expect your paying customers to compromise their training so they can work for your business. Although in BJJ this is routine. BJJ is still full of inappropriate and borderline cult-like business practices.
In the ‘lessons learned’ thread, I would add that you have to take ownership of your training, and not assume that the school’s expectations are going to benefit you. I am sorry to say that much of the time instructors are looking to maximize income at your expense, and you have to be aware of this.
So what you are saying is that you are mad at people for doing exactly what you are doing and not being a grappling dummy? They are probably rolling to the level you are and because you are both white belts cancelling each others skills out. This is what happens when two people train/compete and are at the same level. If you have the same technique level then the stronger or better conditioned athlete will win.
You are being carried by the higher belts and that is why you feel like you are flow rolling and that they are lazy. They are working from bad positions and seeing how you escape to work out counters. Following this "bang" there comes that unexpected submission that they wanted to drill.
You need a mix of all rolling styles, but those battles against people of the same belt level are very important to "level up".
If you want to flow roll with another white belt then just tell them, but that means allowing them to improve position and submit you also.
It sounds like you want to win the white belts rolls and get upset when they match your intensity.
Great to see you have some good higher belts to train with.
they tend to go to the max the more I go harder
I'd say the ability to relax and roll controllably is a better indication of being reafy ti transition from white to blue more than anything. Just my opinion.
This is very true. After a while you learn how to control them so that they just expend their energy getting no where while you just dominate them with position and minimal effort. Then when they are weak as a kitten you can work and they have little left to defend with.It's pretty normal, its also a good gauge when you first start out. When you can handle big, strong, spazzy white belts with ease then you know your jitz is on the right track
This is very true. After a while you learn how to control them so that they just expend their energy getting no where while you just dominate them with position and minimal effort. Then when they are weak as a kitten you can work and they have little left to defend with.