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Is it just a coincidence that 170 has been dominated primarily by wrestlers for many years?

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  1. DeeDubb

    DeeDubb Gracie Online Black Belt

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    It's mostly been American wrestlers with a power overhand to set up their takedowns (or GSP who set it up with his great jab).

    Hughes, GSP, Hendricks, Woodley, and contenders like Fitch, Koscheck, Colby, Usman, etc, etc, etc... Why is 170 the weight class for wrestlers?
     
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    sgtrocknroll Orange Belt

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    Didn’t think GSP was considered a wrestler like the others on the list.
     
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  3. Hespectfully

    Hespectfully Brown Belt

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    You could probably name mulitple champs with a wrestling base for most weight classes. Wrestling is a great base, possibly the best. Es normal.

    HW: Brock, Randy, Stipe, Coleman
    LHW: Tito, Chuck, Cormier.

    See?
     
  4. AmericanBeauty

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    Wrestling + Boxing is the best combination
     
  5. 20falarVerdades

    20falarVerdades Red Belt

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    Rules are biased towards american wrestlers
     
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    Megatronlee Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Personally I love it.

    Learn takedown defense and get good hands. That all you need to beat wrestlers.
     
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    MaulingMyClown Green Belt

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    LMAO, I guess you got it all figured out...Hope Paul Daley reads your answer then puts it all together.
     
  8. KB Warrior

    KB Warrior Brown Belt

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    170 is one of the deepest divisions. Striking based styles have inherently much more risk than wrestling because anyone can land a lucky shot from time to time. Since it is going to take more wins to climb to the top of a deep division its more likely the fighters that take less risk will end up at the top.
     
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    loisestrad Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    There's a difference between having a "wrestling base" and primarily utilizing wrestling. Out of the ones you mention, I wouldn't call Stipe or Chuck "wrestlers", at least.
     
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    Paul hasn’t worked hard enough. If I can get good enough to tap out purple belts in 7 months from a low level blue then he can stop takedowns
     
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    Ruthless_swag Purple Belt

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    yea only because rules favour wrasslers. cant knee when an opponent's hand touches the ground. cant hit the back of the head when wrasslers attempt to take you down. cant upkick.
     
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    Yeah the problem is most the strikers in the history of the division have terrible tdd lol.
     
  13. Malik Andre

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    The lower 3 weights are not wrestler heavy, 170 up has a lot of great wrestlers
     
  14. Hespectfully

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    By that logic, I wouldn’t call Tyron or Hendricks wrestlers. Probably Hughes too, as he subbed guys a lot.
     
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  15. Darwinambrosius

    Darwinambrosius Thought you had a friend, boy?

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    Hughes used his wrestling a lot. Tyron and Hendricks were/are capable of taking down just about anybody, but their wrestling really just allowed them to dictate where the fight would happen. Loisestrad is a moron though.
     
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    The aerage male weight around the world is 170-190lb range

    After weight cutting etc this is probably the division the largest number of people will fall into

    Most fighters that reach championship level have a good wrestling background, particularly in the US where it is part of the general culture

    It seems reasonable that the largest pool of guys that have grown up in that background would get to the top of the division
     
  17. BigMuffler

    BigMuffler Loli is love loli is life!

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    The rules are highly biased towards strikers. If not for standups, clinch breaks, rounds which start on the feet even if the previous one ended on the ground, and gloves to protect the hands when striking, Gay Hugging would be DOMINANT!

    Gay Hugging is real fighting.
     
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    Among the theories in here , this is the most compelling for sure.
     
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    The cage, itself benefits wrestling. Harder to evade takedowns with a cage behind you.
     
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  20. Th3Sav4ge

    Th3Sav4ge "What the fuck is happening!?"

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    but you cant develop the type of striking paul has either.


    imagine paul sayin i was knocking out good strikers after 1 year of training, why cant others do so at a high level


    paul cant wreslte as good as the wrestlers for the same reason they cant strike like paul.
     
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