I got up to reading about eating my car keys and got bored. Really though, you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. The debate can go back and forth for eternity. Not really, since there is a right answer. I agree with you on the point that it isn't the most optimal choice, but neither is peanut butter. I just said that. Would you be a less happy human if I said XTrainer you are no longer allowed to eat it? Depends...if I am able to substitute something better, yes. If not, no. Since anyone can substitute water, whole fruit, etc. for fruit juice, it shouldn't be a factor. And you're also putting PB on the same level as juice, whereas nutritionally, PB has a lot of redeeming value on the macro level (high protein/fat, low carb, satiety, etc.), and juice does not. Probably. It may be the same scenerio for him, to where a glass of OJ makes his day who knows? Fine, but don't let him kid himself into thinking it's actually healthy for him.I get a hint of that from his posts. The guy makes excuses to drink it, even so much as saying he will just lower the amount he consumes. You don't find psychological benefits to be healthy? Eating unhealthy things because it feels good is one of the main health-related problems facing the Western world, so, no, that hypothesis doesn't stand. No matter how happy it makes you, the food acts the same way physiologically. If I don't enjoy what i'm consuming then I struggle to eat it. Okay.We are debating two opposite sides of the spectrum. Spectrum of what?