Irish PM to Trump's Face: "St. Patrick Was An Immigrant." | Page 13

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  1. Fyreborn Brown Belt

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    I wasn't previously familiar with St. Patrick's story, but wiki says he escapes his captors and returned home. Then came to Ireland to preach later.

    So to me, it sounds like he can still reasonably be called an immigrant.
     
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    It's false to say the order targets legal immigrants? What are you taking about?

    Hell, the original order targeted legal *residents*! Not even new immigrants.
     
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    Calling it a "Muslim" ban is false, and even in the context of what I was originally talking about, saying it "targets" legal immigrants is also pretty false. It was a temporary ban. The only thing that was indefinitely banned were Syrian refugees.

    If it was a """"""""Muslim ban"""""""""" then he wouldn't accept 50k refugees. I seriously don't think 90% of the people who complain about it actually read the executive order
     
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    What's a CT knob?
     
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    It's a Muslim ban except for countries with Trump hotels.

    Saying it targets legal immigrants is not false. You aren't fooling anybody. As I said, the original order targeted people who were already residents.

    I have not read the order but I've read plenty of coverage of it. You're being willfully ignorant about the order, IMO.
     
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    This is a long debunked talking point. The list they used was from the previous administration (no, I'm not blaming Obama). Not only did they use a previous list, but doing something like adding Saudi Arabia would've been dumb considering Trump and SA agreed to give refugees safe zones. They also stated they wanted to add more countries to the list anyway.

    This stems from me saying Trump doesn't give a shit about legal immigrants, so in that sense, yes it is false. This was a temporary fucking ban. If Trump disliked immigrants he WOULDN'T EVENTUALLY LET THEM IN.

    lol

    Go read the executive order then. The coverage on it was egregiously misleading. There's some kind of misconception that Trump isn't letting ANY refugees in. He wanted to let in 50k. No one knows this because - wait for it - NO ONE READ THE EXECUTIVE ORDER
     
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  7. luckyshot Muslims and Christians and Jews, Oh my...

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    CT= Conspiracy Theory
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    Sandy Hook deniers, Piizzagaters, the Illuminati (now they call the illuminati "the Globalists," but many are still referring to a secret international cabal that controls the financial system is bent on world domination). Basically, anyone who as ever listened to Alex Jones without laughing his ass off.
     
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    It's temporary but it's still a ban. Even Trump called it a ban.

    We were already doing vetting of immigrants from these regions - though Trump propaganda would have you believe we weren't. They will make the standards even tougher, to reduce immigration. He is literally targeting legal immigration, thus you are wrong to say he is only against illegal immigration. The ban's objective is to reduce legal Muslim immigration from countries that don't have Trump hotels.

    Even if you agree we should restrict Muslim immigration, you have to acknowledge he is targetting legal immigration.
     
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    Exactly right. But if the Irish PM can use an irrelevant story to score cheap points, why can't I?

    I think the real story is that the Irishman tried to embarrass the US president in a situation that provided no gain to Ireland at all. It was irresponsible and undiplomatic. While we are inundated with news that Trump is a buffoon in foreign relations, which I am not disputing overall, here he was by far the less buffoonish statesman involved.
     
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  10. moreorless87 Gold Belt

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    Not the best example to use considering St Patrick played a part in converting the local population to his religion.
     
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    So Trump owns hotels in dozens of Muslim countries? And this is the guy we've been painting as anti-Muslim?

    I have no idea how many hotels Trump owns and where they are located. But your factual claims seem dubious at best. There are about fifty Muslim majority countries in the world. Does Trump own hotels in the Maldives? Whatever else one thinks about this executive order, it clearly affects a relatively small minority of the Muslim world.
     
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    check how many brazilians, croatians, spaniards and polish people there are living and working in ireland..

    you would be surprised.. but then again, lots of things surprise dumb trump voters lol
     
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    Who cares.

    You plant your flag, you make the rules surely these irish faggots would understand this.

    Irish had no qualms taking farm land from the abos.
     
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    Haha ! Yeah, on par with but but crusades I guess.
     
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    Don't know why but I almost spilled coffee on my screen reading this. Don't know why it's funny. Oh it's a slow monday.
     
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    I cant disagree that a big part of it must be to appease his voters or even make it seem that way. But that doesn't change the fact he is trying to settle for the closest thing. To say its neither about muslims or security is false though when the whole point is to try and ban as many Muslims as possible for perceived security purposes.
     
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    Actually I think it's middle eastern Muslim countries that this applies to. My mistake.

    But the hotel thing was very widely reported at the time of the original ban, so I'm surprised you heard nothing about this?

    Edit: A couple links.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/news...countries-linked-businesses-article-1.2957956

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...the_muslim_ban_with_his_business_in_mind.html
     
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    These articles don't support your thesis at all. You claimed that it is a Muslim ban with the exception of Muslim countries that have a Trump hotel. But the articles to which you link show Trump has hotels in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. Given those facts what we see is that Trump has banned immigrants from six Muslim majority countries, but has excluded three Muslim majority countries where he has hotels and an additional 41 Muslim majority countries where he does not have hotels.

    I'm all for a closer look at why Trump excluded Egypt, SA, and the UAE given his business interests there. But your characterization of this limited order as a Muslim ban still doesn't pass muster.

     
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    Thread should have ended here
     
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  20. Fyreborn Brown Belt

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    You didn't read very clearly. They listed more countries than that, for instance Tirkey and Azerbaijan, and made clear they weren't listing all Muslim countries with a Trump hotel.
    There's also tons of other articles than these two, these were only the first two I found in Google.

    Did you seriously never hear about the hotel thing? I find that very surprising.

    Also, the fact that the great and conservative Cato Institute is critiquing the stupid ban should really tell you something.
     
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