Iraq holds victory parade over ISIS, completely ignores all contributions by the Kurdish Peshmerga

[DamasR]

Israelis and Kurds love each other, because both of their "countries" are mythical fairylands come reality.

jews and kurds are on the opposite side of the _ spectrum.

 

[LiveFreeorDie]

jews and kurds are on the opposite side of the _ spectrum.

Not sure what spectrum you're referring to.

 

[ineverpost]

Because now that the infidels have been defeated, they can get back to killing and persecuting each other.

 

[LiveFreeorDie]

every spectrum known to mankind..

Not seeing it, I have spent a lot of time in both places and see similarities over anything.

 

[tramendous]

Iraqis didn't win shit.

Kurds and the US did. The Iraqis were along for the ride. They'll cut and run again without our support.

I could have sworn it was iraqis that did most of the fighting and dying

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

These countries don't last without a ruthless dictator like Saddam or Gaddafi in charge.

 

[Stoic1]

I could have sworn it was iraqis that did most of the fighting and dying

You must have tuned in during 2017.

Rewind to 2014.

 

[Roaming East]

But what moron would go through plans that had no exit strategy?
Just leave ?

The kind that follows international law on sovereignty and respects the treaties and agreements made by his predecessors and in keeping with his predecessors agreements continues the American tradition of stable government and trustworthy arbitration. A country that reneges on agreements every 4 or 8 years is not a country others will deal with. Just look at how the world treats Donny 2 scoops now that his whole agenda is to back out of anything and everything Obama had his name signed to.

 

[RichardHarrow]

These countries don't last without a ruthless dictator like Saddam or Gaddafi in charge.

this. “ Rule with an iron fist” as the Arabs say.

 

[VivaRevolution]

I could have sworn it was iraqis that did most of the fighting and dying

Iraq is basically 3 different countries. The Kurds and Shiites fought. The sunni's not so much. They were too busy surrendering to their cousins in ISIS.

 

[Arkain2K]

You must have tuned in during 2017.

Rewind to 2014.

I could have sworn half of the people in this thread somehow missed out entirely on the ISIS saga.

Mosul doesn't need to be liberated had the Iraqi army stood and fight, instead of serving it up to the Hilux Cavalry on a silver platter.

 

[evansusmc2]

Iraqi army and probably more importantly, Shiite militias did most of the work outside of some areas near the borders of Kurdistan.

This. Lol @ ' they didn't do shit'

Should the premise include “only with the help of NATO/US” ? Probably.

Would it have ever came to this if the Iraqi Army didn’t run away in Mosul to begin with? NO.

 

[evansusmc2]

Did Obama pull troops, yes.

Wasn’t the official reason for Obama getting troops out of Iraq because the Iraqi government refused to renew the SOFA agreement? That alone makes sense, right?

 

[evansusmc2]

The pullout from Iraq was negotiated by the Bush administration. Obama had to comply with it, and it's conditions. Syria? Totally on the Obama admin.

So there was a deadline pullout set in stone? There was a pullout date every year from 2006 to 2014. Even if there was a pullout date set, it was just gonna change with the wind anyways.

 

[Black Helicopters]

Should the premise include “only with the help of NATO/US” ? Probably.

Would it have ever came to this if the Iraqi Army didn’t run away in Mosul to begin with? NO.

Yes but the Kurds did it with the help of the US too. The whole point was that the Kurds didn't singlehandedly liberate Iraq. Iraqi military and Shia militias had to go deep into dangerous enemy territory in Sunni Arab strongholds, Kurds mostly stayed in their comfort zone. They did not liberate the majority of Iraq.

 

[lifelessheap]

And we're not about to stick our necks out for the Kurds now they've served our purpose .

Holy Shiite.

 

[evansusmc2]

Yes but the Kurds did it with the help of the US too. The whole point was that the Kurds didn't singlehandedly liberate Iraq. Iraqi military and Shia militias had to go deep into dangerous enemy territory in Sunni Arab strongholds, Kurds mostly stayed in their comfort zone. They did not liberate the majority of Iraq.

That’s really all the Kurds should have been doing anyways. Fighting for their land and protecting their people. Unlike the 18,000 Iraqi soldiers in Mosul. They ran away from like 400 ISIS goons.

 

[tramendous]

Iraq is basically 3 different countries. The Kurds and Shiites fought. The sunni's not so much. They were too busy surrendering to their cousins in ISIS.

It was a sectarian war, obviously a lot of the sunnis threw their lot with isis. Other sunnis like the kurds fought isis, other sunnis like the iraqis mentioned in their parade fought against isis as well.

 

[tramendous]

You must have tuned in during 2017.

Rewind to 2014.

Ya 2014 it was iraqis doing most of the fighting and dying in iraq.

 

[Stoic1]

Ya 2014 it was iraqis doing most of the fighting and dying in iraq.

You mean getting their asses handed to them as they abandoned their equipment. The Kurds were the ones holding back the tide of ISIS 13-15.