International arms watchdog finds that most ISIS weaponry was purchased by the United States and SA

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  1. VivaRevolution

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    International arms watchdog finds that most ISIS weaponry was purchased by the United States and Saudi Arabia before being shipped to opposition forces in Syria and Iraq.
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    BY RORY WOOD ON JANUARY 21, 2018SYRIAN CIVIL WAR


    A damning report by the EU-funded Conflict Armament Research has found that the majority of weapons that ended-up in the hands of Daesh/ISIS were purchased from Eastern European stockpiles by the United States or Saudi Arabia and transferred to opposition militias in Syria. In many cases there is clear evidence to suggest that the arms were transferred into ISIS possession in less than a month, as US-backed groups amalgamated into ISIS or the weapons were sold on a thriving black market.

    A significant proportion of the weapons examined were unauthorised for retransfer, meaning that they had End User Clauses for US and Saudi military or police use that were quickly violated, not even being shipped to their country of authorised usage in many cases.

    One item inspected by CAR in May 2015 was a Bulgarian PG-7T 40 mm rocket. The Government of Bulgaria confirmed that it exported the item to the US Department of the Army through the US company Kiesler Police Supply. The application for the export licence was accompanied by the original EUC issued by the US Department of the Army (with a non-re-export clause) as well as a delivery verification certificate. The rocket ultimately ended up with IS forces near Al Hasakah, before YPG forces liberated the town and sent the rocket to CAR for examination.

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    Cases like this go on and on with various rocket launchers, explosives and assault rifles of predominantly Bulgarian and Romanian manufacture, but with one US importer coming up every time: Kiesler Police Supply.

    According to the report:

    Kiesler Police Supply was incorporated in the US state of Indiana in 1975 as Kiesler Hardware & Supply. The company changed its name to Kiesler Police Supply in 1980 in order to begin dealing primarily in firearms and ammunition. On its website, Kiesler Police Supply only advertises itself as providing equipment to US national law enforcement agencies. However, the company has been contracted in the past to supply weapons to Iraq. In 2004, Kiesler Police Supply was awarded a multi-million dollar contract to provide weapons such as AK-pattern assault rifles and ammunition to Iraqi security forces.36 On 4 October 2016, CAR called Kiesler Police Supply to request further information regarding the multiple weapon transfers described in this report. The company declined to comment. On 20 October 2016, CAR emailed and faxed an information request for all the items traced to Kiesler Police Supply. The company has yet to respond to CAR’s request for information.

    As CAR beautifully put it, their ‘findings are a stark reminder of the contradictions inherent in supplying weapons into armed conflicts in which multiple competing and overlapping non-state armed groups operate.’ In other words, only a fucking moron would be unable to predict that pumping weapons into the hands of farmers living in ISIS territory would result in anything other than ISIS militants gaining possession of shiny new toys. Or, more conceivably, this wasn’t a strategic error on behalf of the US, and arming ISIS in order to destabilise the regime of the uncooperative Bashar Al-Assad was part of the plan all along.

    https://amityunderground.com/intern...syria-and-iraq-isis-arms-kieslerpolicesupply/


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    So what say you WR?

    This is a European agency saying this, and not just that US weapons fell into the hands of ISIS, but that the majority of their weapons were from the US and Saudi Arabia, and then they provide evidence to prove this.

    Discuss......
     
  2. Oeshon

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    its already common knowledge that the US armed ISIS.
     
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    Tropodan Red Belt Platinum Member

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    Yes by arming "moderate" rebels. Also, ISIS took custody of the Iraqi militaries hardware which was mostly from the US I believe.
     
  4. PrinceOfPain

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    This is hardly a surprise.
     
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    i find this hard ti believe....


    i mean the amount of weapons cashes that they got... really hard to say
     
  6. Hard To Tell

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    Obama was the ISIS president.
     
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    State Department is supposed to be in charge of shit like this, are they not?
     
  8. Ruprecht

    Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    What's hard to believe? They aren't claiming that the US/S.A. sold/supplied weapons to ISIS directly. They are saying that arms were supplied to Iraqi forces and Syrian rebel groups which either joined ISIS or were destroyed by ISIS and had their supplies taken.
     
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    But but but Russia and Putin!!! And Jews and Israel and China and Orthodox christians! Catholics!!! Just as bad! Real problem in world!

    Given the Saudi hush money to silence UK and UK participation. I bet the UK is guilty as well. German intelligence might be to.
     
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    US supported "moderate" rebels groups in Syria before being all in with the Kurds. Those rebel groups often work hand in hand with ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Weapons and supplies given by US often end up in the hands of ISIS.
     
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    The news is also reporting today that Obamas Iran deal helped fund terrorist groups .

    The plane full of money he gave Iran is now showing up in terrorist hands .

    Thanks Obama
     
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    But don't forget this

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    Bloodworth Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card Yellow Card Banned

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    That prize is based on skin color, gender, and nationality.

    The panel literally said we are racist if we don't give Obama this award .

    Kinda awkward when he just took out gadaffi and left the Libyan people in a state of chaos. No exit strategy after taking out their leader.

    Then he asked Congress for war with Syria and was Denied ....

    The Nobel peace prize is now a joke

    Thanks Obama
     
  14. VivaRevolution

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    Yeah, Iran likes to kill ISIS members. Wake me up when Hezbollah attacks the US.
     
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    And republicans are of the house of Saud.
     
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    Bloodworth Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card Yellow Card Banned

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    The biggest American flag burning group, Hezbollah?
    You don't think they would attack the u.s. if they could?

    Obama's money now in the hands of terror groups.

    Obama trades 5 Taliban leaders, with some back fighting on the battlefield

    Obama won't say Islamic terror

    I wonder if hussein Obama has family ties to the middle East .

    Ancestry.com Obama , says his family friends were the osamas ...
     
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    Obama under the guidance of Hilary did his best to turn Syria into a pile of rubble. 1 billion dollars of tax payer money sent to terrorists, sorry moderate rebels via the C.I.A. No shit ISIS got their hands on some.
     
  18. VivaRevolution

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    Lol, Hezbollah was kicking the shit out of ISIS, Al-Nusra, and "moderate rebels" armed by the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey.

    If Hezbollah wanted to attack the US, we wouldn't like the results.

    Honestly man, Hezbollah is like a Iranian military unit that wears diferent uniforms.
     
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    Are they still fighting with rocks against tanks?
     
  20. VivaRevolution

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    No, they are armed to the teeth by the Syrian government, and iran.
     
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