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Colonization never ended for the US and it's EU partners. They just do it more sophisticated since WW2 and Geneva conventions which prevent naked aggression and theft - instead overthrow governments covertly which have to will of the people in mind and install western hirelings to sell resources cheap to Western Corps. This leaves poverty and destitution along with radical terror groups in countries affected.

Here is a journal article which details one way it's done in case of Libya in 2011. It's long so I'll just post abstract here and you can follow link if you want the whole story.

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In the wake of the “Arab Spring” revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt in late 2010 and early 2011, the conventional narrative, at least in the Western media, soon became one of an unstoppable tidal wave of emancipation. This was expected to leave no stone unturned, at least in the decaying Arab republics, which many academics continued to argue were structurally weaker than the region's monarchies.1

In this context, the Benghazi uprising in eastern Libya in February 2011 was widely portrayed as the start of yet another revolution — both nationwide and organic — that would soon see Muammar Qadhafi's regime swept from power by an overwhelming majority of the population. As the weeks dragged on, however, with Qadhafi still effectively in power and the bulk of the Libyan armed forces apparently remaining loyal, this narrative had to be abandoned and replaced by a new one depicting a desperate regime clinging to power by wielding extreme violence against its people and deploying vicious foreign mercenaries. Certainly, by March 2011 it was generally assumed that Qadhafi's fighters, whoever they were, would massacre thousands of civilians if they managed to re-enter Benghazi, and if the Western powers and their regional allies did not step up to the plate with some sort of humanitarian intervention on behalf of the “Libyan revolution.”

Although at the time several analysts did try to question the details underpinning these two interlinked narratives,2 it took more than five years before any real willingness emerged in Western government circles to investigate more thoroughly the events of 2011. Published in September 2016, for example, a British parliamentary report recognized that the eventual NATO-led intervention (Operation Unified Protector) had gone badly wrong and conceded that the intelligence it was based on was not necessarily credible in the first place. Entitled “Libya: Examination of Intervention and Collapse and the UK's Future Policy Options,” it drew the conclusion that former British Prime Minister David Cameron was primarily to blame for the ensuing chaos in the wake of Qadhafi's removal, due to “his decision-making in the [UK] National Security Council” and his “failure to develop a coherent Libya strategy.”3 But beyond this superficial and heavily politicized reading of the Libya conflict, which offered little insight into its root causes or the real objectives of Britain and the other intervening external powers, a substantial body of evidence has now emerged that allows for a much deeper understanding of the Libyan uprising and the NATO intervention. In particular, the contents of hundreds of recently declassified files, court-subpoenaed materials and leaked official correspondence strongly suggest that the two mainstream narratives of 2011, and even the British parliament's belated findings, have largely obscured the real reasons behind Qadhafi's removal and the methods used to make it happen.

After necessarily situating the Libyan conflict in its proper historical context and then identifying the patterns behind the numerous earlier attempts to remove Qadhafi from power, this article will draw heavily on this extensive and now accessible new evidence to demonstrate how the 2011 Arab Spring phenomenon was soon manipulated by external actors to provide diplomatic cover for the calculated dismantling of a Libyan regime that had remained largely resistant to the opening up of its economy to Western investment and, inconveniently, was still able to count on a significant domestic support base. Furthermore, it will be shown that, by this stage, the Libyan regime had not only failed to establish itself as a reliable partner in the long-running U.S. “War on Terror,” but had actually emerged as one of the strongest voices opposing the expansion of NATO and U.S. military power onto the African continent.

Within this more nuanced framework, the article will also reveal how the Western powers’ regime-change agenda in Libya in 2011 was to a great extent shielded from public scrutiny, with some of the most significant and visible roles being assigned to key regional Arab allies. In this sense, mindful of the ongoing domestic backlash to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 and wary of further international criticism of their Middle East policies, the Western powers this time made sure to orchestrate better a web of compliant Arab proxies that could effectively provide most of the financing and on-the-ground logistical and intelligence support for those Libyans who were willing to oppose the regime, even if they were in a minority and even if their Arab Spring or “pro-democracy” credentials were impossible to verify or completely non-existent."

Full article here
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/mepo.12310/full


And a list of countries USA has done similar to.

Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)
  • China 1949 to early 1960s
  • Albania 1949-53
  • East Germany 1950s
  • Iran 1953 *
  • Guatemala 1954 *
  • Costa Rica mid-1950s
  • Syria 1956-7
  • Egypt 1957
  • Indonesia 1957-8
  • British Guiana 1953-64 *
  • Iraq 1963 *
  • North Vietnam 1945-73
  • Cambodia 1955-70 *
  • Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
  • Ecuador 1960-63 *
  • Congo 1960 *
  • France 1965
  • Brazil 1962-64 *
  • Dominican Republic 1963 *
  • Cuba 1959 to present
  • Bolivia 1964 *
  • Indonesia 1965 *
  • Ghana 1966 *
  • Chile 1964-73 *
  • Greece 1967 *
  • Costa Rica 1970-71
  • Bolivia 1971 *
  • Australia 1973-75 *
  • Angola 1975, 1980s
  • Zaire 1975
  • Portugal 1974-76 *
  • Jamaica 1976-80 *
  • Seychelles 1979-81
  • Chad 1981-82 *
  • Grenada 1983 *
  • South Yemen 1982-84
  • Suriname 1982-84
  • Fiji 1987 *
  • Libya 1980s
  • Nicaragua 1981-90 *
  • Panama 1989 *
  • Bulgaria 1990 *
  • Albania 1991 *
  • Iraq 1991
  • Afghanistan 1980s *
  • Somalia 1993
  • Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
  • Ecuador 2000 *
  • Afghanistan 2001 *
  • Venezuela 2002 *
  • Iraq 2003 *
  • Haiti 2004 *
  • Somalia 2007 to present
  • Honduras 2009
  • Libya 2011 *
  • Syria 2012
  • Ukraine 2014 *
 
Third world savages want to move to places with significant better living conditions? I am SHOCKED!

If you want to invite them in, fine. You should personally be liable for their housing, food, travel cost as well as their employment. Let's see how generous these left wing retards are when they have to fork up the money themselves.
 
I don't have to understand them. I don't owe them shit.
 
Third world savages want to move to places with significant better living conditions? I am SHOCKED!

If you want to invite them in, fine. You should personally be liable for their housing, food, travel cost as well as their employment. Let's see how generous these left wing retards are when they have to fork up the money themselves.
They are not "third world savages" they are refugees moving to the imperial countries from decimation Westerners caused. I hope EU and US getting millions of boat people a month only then when their voices are heard in politics will Western powers change.
 
They are not "third world savages" they are refugees moving to the imperial countries from decimation Westerners caused. I hope EU and US getting millions of boat people a month only then when their voices are heard in politics will Western powers change.
1st world people of intelligence fail to grasp this. They would prop up a corrupt puppet government and if ousted would leave behind a culture of corruption.
 
They are not "third world savages" they are refugees moving to the imperial countries from decimation Westerners caused. I hope EU and US getting millions of boat people a month only then when their voices are heard in politics will Western powers change.

They are third world savages, incompatible with the values of Western society. True refugees are suppose to settle in the first safe country they cross into. These asylum shopping scums generally pass through half a dozen safe countries on their way to Western Europe or North America, but they skip on those because the benefits aren't great.

If they die, they die.
 
Immigration is great but why bring in thousands of people who are unsuited to a country and who do not benefit that country either. In fact they bring only negative things to it. Makes no sense.
 
Oh we should feel so guilty because of our culture and history. We conquered other countries in the past, boo hoo! Fuck off then!
You wouldn't have this great life in the west if it wasn't for our history. I get sick and tired of wankers moaning and saying how bad we are. They have no idea how lucky they are, most of the world is shit.
 
Nice to see that human decency os dead for so many.
 
Oh we should feel so guilty because of our culture and history. We conquered other countries in the past, boo hoo! Fuck off then!
You wouldn't have this great life in the west if it wasn't for our history. I get sick and tired of wankers moaning and saying how bad we are. They have no idea how lucky they are, most of the world is shit.

QFT. Every single Empire that has existed, from Rome to Britain to America itself, was built on the blood and bones of conquered people.

Darwinism applies to nations as well as individuals.
 
Immigration is great but why bring in thousands of people who are unsuited to a country and who do not benefit that country either. In fact they bring only negative things to it. Makes no sense.

Unless you are an Aborigine, you have no business stating this.
 
1st world people of intelligence fail to grasp this. They would prop up a corrupt puppet government and if ousted would leave behind a culture of corruption.

We understand perfectly. We just don't care.

My first concern is always myself and my family. My country is a distant but still important(because I and my loved ones have to live in it)second.

The fate of other nations, unless they directly effect me, are so far off my radar they barely register.
 
I have no issue with immigrants. Never have. So long as they realize they are coming to a far superior country, and treat it as such. Do not try and make my country worse by your presence.
 
Nice to see that human decency os dead for so many.
Where was the human decency when these Islamic savages enslaved more than half a million Europeans through coastal raids? Where was the human decency when they forced non-believers to convert or be killed?

I am happy to import immigrants, just not ones from Islamic societies.
 
Immigration is great but why bring in thousands of people who are unsuited to a country and who do not benefit that country either. In fact they bring only negative things to it. Makes no sense.

This is the part I don't get.

Milions of people have been suffering in these countries for a long time. It's 'normal' to them.

Remember when you could sponsor them for a cup a coffee a day?

NOW, IT'S ALL OF THE SUDDEN imperative that they come to the western countries and live here, right after we bombed the fuck out of them.
 
They're probably cool with us though. We only killed their families. Sometimes by mistake.
 
It would be nice if it was possible to let anybody who wanted to come in do so and everything would be hunky dory but that's simply not practical for a variety of reasons. Immigration needs to be controlled in bursts not simply let the flood gates open.

Also imperialism is not an excuse to jeopardize the quality of life of the average citizen who has no control of the governments past or current actions.
 
It's not racism for most, it's a healthy fear of retribution.
 
Where was the human decency when these Islamic savages enslaved more than half a million Europeans through coastal raids? Where was the human decency when they forced non-believers to convert or be killed?

I am happy to import immigrants, just not ones from Islamic societies.

Are you? How about south americans. Those countries are predominantly christian
 
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