Indian Air Force wants out of fighter program with Russia

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NEW DELHI – The ambitious $10 billion Indo-Russian program for joint development and production of fifth generation fighter aircraft, or FGFA, faces a new serious hurdle, as the Indian Air Force demands a discontinuation of the project.

Senior IAF leadership recently expressed apprehension to the Ministry of Defence, claiming the proposed FGFA program with Russia does not meet desired requirements like U.S. F-35 fighter type capabilities, disclosed a senior IAF official. That official added, that “IAF is not keen to continue with the program.”

The proposed FGFA program does not meet desired stealth and cross section features compared to a F-35 fighter, the official explained, thus major structural changes are needed that cannot be met in the existing Russian prototypes.



FGFA also does not have modular engine concept, making maintenance and serviceability of the fleet expensive and troublesome. A second service official said the modular engine concept is required for the fleet serviceability and availability of FGFA aircrafts at short notice, since it can be done by the user itself.

Russians have offered non-modular engines for FGFA and its maintenance and other relations can only be handled by the manufacturer.

Russian Embassy diplomats here were unavailable for comments.

Vaijinder K Thakur, retired IAF squadron leader and defense analyst disagreement with the Air Force assessment of capability, saying that the current Russian FGFA prototype, known as Su-57, features the AL-41F1 engine. But the production variant of FGFA would be fitted with the Product 30 engine which is 30 percent lighter, features improved thrust, and has better fuel efficiency and fewer moving parts. That results in improved reliability and 30 percent lower life-cycle cost, Thakur said.
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ouch, seems like the pak-fa has a fuck tone of issues
 
I guess India is all in with F-35. I can see them buying the A version for their air force and B version for their carriers.
 
Russians fleeced them and they finally figured it out.

lol took the indians long enough, good luck getting any money back. And the Russians were always going to keep all the best tech for themselves.
 
MadSquabbles500 said:
Have we worked out the kinks in the F-35s ourselves yet?
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The is B and A operational in the united states..

Operational testing was to continue aboard USS Abraham Lincoln for the C model with the first deployment is scheduled aboard USS Carl Vinson in 2020ish might be sooner.


there is also rumors of a F-35D being studied and evaluated for the USAF which uses the larger wings of the C and has some very....interesting features including a pretty unique engine
 
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no point in Russian on in because Indian, it doesn't even matter.
 
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India is pissed the Russians will not sell them the Mig-31.
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The only thing cooler than a MIG-31 is a cherry Gran Torino.
 
GhostZ06 said:
The is B and A operational in the united states..

Operational testing was to continue aboard USS Abraham Lincoln for the C model with the first deployment is scheduled aboard USS Carl Vinson in 2020ish might be sooner.


there is also rumors of a F-35D being studied and evaluated for the USAF which uses the larger wings of the C and has some very....interesting features including a pretty unique engine
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FB-22 v2.0?
 
Orgasmo said:
I guess India is all in with F-35. I can see them buying the A version for their air force and B version for their carriers.
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that will be a very intresting carrier aircraft wing, mig-29s, Rafael and F-35s? fuck that sounds like a sexy wing
 
GhostZ06 said:
that will be a very intresting carrier aircraft wing, mig-29s, Rafael and F-35s? fuck that sounds like a sexy wing
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i think rafale are CATOBAR only, so i imagine only the IAF will fly them
 
then again i guess any light/medium fighter can take off on a ski jump if you sacrifice enough range & payload
 
GhostZ06 said:
that will be a very intresting carrier aircraft wing, mig-29s, Rafael and F-35s? fuck that sounds like a sexy wing
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I imagine they're going to have a very pissed off maintenance crew because of the different parts and designs they must work with. On top of that, combat readiness is going to be shit.
 
$10 billion Indo-Russian program ..... does not meet desired requirements like U.S. F-35 fighter type capabilities
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Well no fucking shit. The F-35's development stage has already cost somewhere in the region of $50 billion, with projections for the total project running into the trillions.
 
22k said:
no point in Russian on in because Indian, it doesn't even matter.
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At first I thought you couldn't type a coherent sentence, then after a minute I was like "Ooooh".
 
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