Indepth GSP vs Woodley

Truth stings doesn't it?

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ANY version of GSP doesn't TOUCH current Woodley

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We've seen Woodley lose to someone similar to GSP in Rory. Of course Woodley could evolve and not lose to the same style twice but GSP is also one of the smartest martial artists out there, he has more tools than Rory, I see Woodley's win condition to be Matt Serra-ing him and getting a finish. GSP has more tools to win, I believe he could out grind him in grappling, he has a higher chance of landing a submission and he could just use technical striking to edge a decision.
 
Woodley's just not that good a fighter. When he went on Bully Beatdown the bully got to take 1000$ home.
 
GSP would be able to implement the Rory MacDonald game plan against Woodley and would be even more dominant.

My thoughts exactly mixed with GSPs sub game that's what prompted me to pick a late sub
 
Lets be real here if The goat GSP though he could beat the new ww goat TYRON then heda fought him

Tyron was non existent when GSP was on top not even a top ten..and was dealt with by Rory..another Tristar product and GSP already has been a successful champ twice in the welterweight division why do it again..but that's another topic this is how they match up
 
Woodley > GSP

If you say otherwise you’re an uneducated casual.

Which GSP? 27 year old GSP or 37 year old GSP?

Woodley had 2 stinkers with Thompson and Maia. He is not some unbeatable monster.
 
i wish GSP believed in himself as much as you do.

maybe you should apply to be his sports psychologist and try to instill in him the confidence to take this fight.

I would love to see Woodley v GSP
 
Woodley has that bad loss to Rory that really needed avenging. I know Rory bailed for Bellator, But people who are in the GOAT talk need to avenge losses. If Rory wins a few more as does Woodley, I would love to see the UFC and Bellator try and put something together. That is one area boxing still has an edge over the UFC. Canelo can't go to another company to avoid a 3rd GGG fight. He has to just outright duck the man.
 
GSP’s biggest strength was the threat of the takedown.

No one was/is afraid of his striking. His striking effectiveness was greatly increased by the threat of his blast double.

If GSP can’t take Woodley down regularly, there’s no way he wins the fight.

I see the fight looking a lot like GSP vs. Hendricks.

Only Woodley is much faster than Hendricks, is a better striker, has better footwork, and he seems to be a more powerful puncher, too.

Would probably be a boring fight, with both guys playing it safe. Would definitely be a boring fight if GSP could impose his will.

Would be a short and dominant fight if Woodley could get up the guts to let his hands go...


GSP can jab leg kick and superman punch Tyron all night and win

GSP can takedown Woodley and control gas him for the win

GSP can submit woodley maybe even tko him

Woodley can K.O GSP...that's it..GSP has tons of ways to win ..Woodley has one
 
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Woodley's win over Till was impressive. Knockdown to elbows, to submission, that's my favourite way to watch a fight go.
Woodley can KO GSP.
But Till was awful and he doesn't land on Georges 10/10 times.

Till got hit by the same punch Woodley has been looking for, for over 5 years now. He moved right towards it and never showed anything clever.

Woodley's predictability, lack of pressure, GSP's pressure and Firas' history with Woodley makes this a winnable fight for Georges.

Anyone thinking Woodley wins this every time is playing internet fanboi.
 
Prime GSP beats woodley everywhere other than 1 punch KO power.
GSP has better boxing, kicks,fight IQ,cardio,Jj,footwork and wrestling.
Woodley has a punchers chance, thats it.
 
GSP can jab leg kick and superman punch Tyron all night and win

GSP can takedown Woodley and control gas him for the win

GSP can submit woodley maybe even tko him

Woodley can K.O GSP...that's it..GSP has tons of ways to win ..Woodley has one
All facts.
 
i wish GSP believed in himself as much as you do.

maybe you should apply to be his sports psychologist and try to instill in him the confidence to take this fight.

I would love to see Woodley v GSP


I think he does.. he just doesn't want to live that championship life..for GSP MMA is an obsession so for him being champ makes him manic.. so he would rather do one offs and supers now he talks about it indepth in his book
 
Woodley now KOs any version of GSP. Styles make fights and Georges knows this.

Repeating that for the 20th time doesn't make it true. It does reflects your insecurities towards your own assessment though.
 
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Woodley's win over Till was impressive. Knockdown to elbows, to submission, that's my favourite way to watch a fight go.
Woodley can KO GSP.
But Till was awful and he doesn't land on Georges 10/10 times.

Till got hit by the same punch Woodley has been looking for, for over 5 years now. He moved right towards it and never showed anything clever.

Woodley's predictability, lack of pressure, GSP's pressure and Firas' history with Woodley makes this a winnable fight for Georges.

Anyone thinking Woodley wins this every time is playing internet fanboi.
Woodley dropped wonderboy in both fights
 
Woodley dropped wonderboy in both fights

What does that have to do with anything? I think you're just upset I didn't show a flattering Woodley GIF and missed my point. I'll make it more clear...

Tyron backing up and leading guys to his power shot is something Woodley has done for a long, long time. It's a tendency Rory and Firas exploited, took away from Woodley and left him with nothing to attack with. It's something Wonderboy was also prepared for, like in the GIF I showed.

Till and Koscheck had no respect, awareness or we're over confident in the same scenarios, and were blasted. Georges will not be one of those guys.
 
I see alot of people , jumping on this narrative that GSP would lose and lose badly to woodley..and that he's some how scaried to fight him.

Let's break this down and try and understand how this is even possible to think.

First there skill set and style..

GSP is a tactical Wrestler with a Karate based striking style, specializing in effective gameplanning and execution of said gameplan

Woodley is a powerful wrestler and primarily a boxing stylist on his feet specializing in both counter wrestling and counter power striker

Now there physical comparison

GSP 5 10 - 170/lbs with a hydration factor of around 19 to 20 pounds putting him around 190
Reach : 76
Age:37


Woodley 5'9 170lbs and similar hydration level to GSP bringing him 190 +
Reach :74
Age:36

All in all pretty close physically speaking with the reach going to GSP..a key factor when considering one of George's best weapon is his jab.

Moving on to career breakdown and pedrigee as fighters

Starting first with Common Opponents in this case they share two common opponents

Josh koscheck and Jake shields

GSP
Defeated Josh koscheck twice (decision unnamious both times, broke Josh's orbital bone in the second meeting)

Defeated Jake shields (unanimous)

Woodley

Defeated by Jake shields (decision spilt)

Defeated Josh koscheck (huge k.o)

Although Woodley lost it was a close fight and he also beat koscheck in a fashion GSP could not , that being said GSP was throughly dominate over both fights with koscheck most noticeable he's ability to stop koschecks takedowns while landing his own ..when Josh was considered to be the "better wrestler"

Further career analysis

GSP has consistently beaten fighters who were considered better grapplers or wrestlers them him , a claim most people are saying about Woodley as well as beating some powerful strikers as well.

Here are these two fighters top wins against fighters who represent a part or fully each other's style.


First GSP

Matt Hughes -2 victories ..one a tko finish where he stopped Hughes wrestling and outgrappped and outstruck him from range and a second victory by submission where he throughly outgrappled Hughes and sub him via armbar. ( Hughes is widely regarded as one of the best wrestlers to ever compete in MMA period and has better credentils then Woodley)

Frank Trigg another top level wrestler who has show decent hands ,was beaten by GSP by submission again outgraappling someone who was supposed to be better at it then him.

BJ Penn a grappler who can strike with big power and was a champion at welterweight, GSP shut him down in the rematch for a corner stoppage and made a comeback victory in there first fight despite being lit up in the first round ( BJ again someone considered be a better grapplers and more powerful strikers then gsp just like Woodley)

Jon Fitch - probably the best 170 pound wrestler to ever compete..he was never in the fight agaisnt GSP and at moments looked like an amatuer.( Another top wrestler beaten soundly)

Now Woodley

Kelvin gastelum..woodley fought a tough fight agaisnt kelvin and won, kelvin is a well rounded fighter with a good wrestling base much like GSP

Rory McDonald..Woodley was defeated and beaten badly by Rory McDonald who is a wrestler and teammate of GSP who fights similar to GSP ..albeit alittle taller with more reach

Josh koscheck - great wrestler with decent striking and power didn't last very long and was koed by Woodley ( koscheck wrestling was subpar to GSPs but higher then most and couldnt do anything with it on Woodley)

Nate mardqaurdt - another well rounded wrestler/grappler based fighter who Koed Woodley badly .. mardqaurdt is very similar to GSP size and experience level.


Based on these .. Woodley has been far more inconsistent against fighters similar to GSP then GSP has agaisnt fighters close to Woodleys style..

That being said there always X- Factors in every fight

Xfactors for GSP vs Woodley

GSP- GSPs well rounded fighter style and adaptability makes him extremely hard to predict and prepare for..how many times have we seen him confuse opponents or adjust mid fight to pull out the victory( Hughes,BJ Penn,Nick Diaz)

Woodley- Destructive power in his hands, Woodley posses the ultimate equalizer in his fist and has proven recently that regardless of the round or opponent size he can knock them down a level or out cold. Something GSP would have to be concerned with.

My overall fight assessment

GSP wins by decision or late submission..the gameplan will consist of ranged striking early by GSP getting Woodley to back up agaisnt the cage similarly to how he did against Rory and GSP will proceed to take down woodley through the middle rounds and will either rinse and repeat for the decision or rear naked choke late on a tired Woodley.

Overall GSP has more tools he can use to best Woodley then Woodley does to beat him..

This is my opinion based on the research provided above.


Please discuss

TL: DR isn't valid here but expected as this is sherdog afterall lol

Maybe your prediction is right.
We’ never know.

But Jon Fitch is far from the best wrestler or MMA wrestler to compete at 170.
He has an incredibly padded record.

And regarding Woodley: he has improved A LOT since most of the matches you discussed.

Finally, no way GSP wins by submission.
But I can buy GSP winning by decision, which is probably the most likely outcome.
 
The same people saying GSP would win are the same posters that defend GSP for not fighting T-Wood. This place makes me sad sometimes.
 
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