In your opinion... What is the MMA Masterpiece?

NotSoSure said:
Speak for yourself. We are tired of seeing Conor get exposed....you are deluded.
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Conor exposed to the public that a third belt's comin'
 
3sumrock said:
Maybe because usada wasn't around when silva crashing cans?and once usada came in silva got busted.
And do you have proof that gsp is not clean?
"beats running away from the sport"
Not sure what you mean there.i assume you claiming silva was past his prime when he fought weidman which is not true.
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You are the type of GSP fan that should be banned from forums. You need to hate on a completely different fighter to elevate your hero: it's BS. You have two choices: continue acting like a complete idiot, or appreciate the great accomplishments outside the narrow spectrum you, for some reason, want to define.

Typical GSP fan argumentation arsenal. (1) Silva tested positive once, hence he was always on PEDs. (2) The MW division was weak.

(1) Is false by default. You can only claim the substance was used when a positive test appears. Do you know the athlete gets to defend himself and a chance to explain why the substances showed up? In his case, 2 roids and two benzos. Roids are a big no no and he was guilty. But Benzos? That's a poor excuse for a PED in MMA.

Overall, if there is no evidence he was using PEDs during his title reign, you should make the correct accusation. If you extend one instance to the entire career, a Silva defender can bring up the accusations BJ Penn and Hendricks were making of GSP, his odd gut and his shady attempt to manage a VADA testing for a fight....he lost but won.

(2) If the MW division was a bunch of cans, then why were the WW cutting weight to avoid it? For fun? It's a BS argument, Anderson beat Vitor with a kick that nobody else will pull off. He beat Hendo by submission, he, well, you know: FINISHED fights. He made them look weak, because instead of laying and praying, he finished.

Nobody serious enough thinks Weidman didn't catch a decaying Silva who over-clowned and then shattered a shinbone. Props for Weidman to be prepared, but he had a degree of oddness to his wins.
 
Coexist said:
Forrest tested positive for Xanax post fight, surprise
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Silva tested positive for two benzos (same as Xanax) after the Diaz fight. What's your point? In Silva's case it fell under the PED category...it is a banned substance.

Do you know why?
 
For the ground game....

Kazushi Sakuraba vs Carlos Newton



For the striking game...

Pedro Rizzo vs Tra Telligman II

 
NotSoSure said:
You are the type of GSP fan that should be banned from forums. You need to hate on a completely different fighter to elevate your hero: it's BS. You have two choices: continue acting like a complete idiot, or appreciate the great accomplishments outside the narrow spectrum you, for some reason, want to define.

Typical GSP fan argumentation arsenal. (1) Silva tested positive once, hence he was always on PEDs. (2) The MW division was weak.

(1) Is false by default. You can only claim the substance was used when a positive test appears. Do you know the athlete gets to defend himself and a chance to explain why the substances showed up? In his case, 2 roids and two benzos. Roids are a big no no and he was guilty. But Benzos? That's a poor excuse for a PED in MMA.

Overall, if there is no evidence he was using PEDs during his title reign, you should make the correct accusation. If you extend one instance to the entire career, a Silva defender can bring up the accusations BJ Penn and Hendricks were making of GSP, his odd gut and his shady attempt to manage a VADA testing for a fight....he lost but won.

(2) If the MW division was a bunch of cans, then why were the WW cutting weight to avoid it? For fun? It's a BS argument, Anderson beat Vitor with a kick that nobody else will pull off. He beat Hendo by submission, he, well, you know: FINISHED fights. He made them look weak, because instead of laying and praying, he finished.

Nobody serious enough thinks Weidman didn't catch a decaying Silva who over-clowned and then shattered a shinbone. Props for Weidman to be prepared, but he had a degree of oddness to his wins.
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1:"if there is no evidence he was using PEDs during his title reign"
You don need evidence he was using steroid during his title reign when he got caught in usada era.and how do you know he wasn't on steroid during his title reign? There's More evidence of him using steroid it in pre usada since he got caught once usada came in.
2:using your logic,mws is bunch of scared lhw.
Vitor belfort?hes a gatekeeper without trt
Dan Henderson is the only good opponent he's fought that's not out of prime.

3:clearly you didn't watch the fight.chris weidman was winning the fight before he clowned.look at the stats.
 
3sumrock said:
1:"if there is no evidence he was using PEDs during his title reign"
You don need evidence he was using steroid during his title reign when he got caught in usada era.and how do you know he wasn't on steroid during his title reign? There's More evidence of him using steroid pre usada era since he got caught once usada came in.
2:using your logic,mws is bunch of scared lhw.
Vitor belfort?hes a gatekeeper without trt
Dan Henderson is the only legit good opponent he's fought that's not out of prime.
3:clearly you didn't watch the fight.chris weidman was winning the fight before he clowned.look at the stats.
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1- There were tests pre-usada. He never failed a single one, neither did GSP. But GSP had the signs of a juicer, was accused left and right: so, if you are going to apply your ridiculous rule of "guilty once later, guilty always earlier", I can assume GSP was on HGH for example.

What you don't get is that MMA was and still is riddled with PEDs. Another thing you don't seem to get is: it's not rocket science to pass and still use the PEDs. The testing is not infallible.

2- Vitor was a UFC champ. He starched Bisping and Rockhold...he almost ripped Jones' arm off. Kicking him clean in the face to finish a fight is something only one human being could pull off. The beatings he handled Franklin, who was the very best at his time are also epic.

I suspect you are a noob who decided that shitting on Silva is a good way to elevate GSP: that's a poor approach.

3- I watched them: Silva also lost the first round to Hendo. Silva lost 4 rounds to Sonnen. But he finished both guys. Weidman was not getting the best of the second right, Silva clowned too much and got clipped. That's less embarrassing than tapping to strikes to a 5'5'' TUFer.

You want to hate on Silva, go ahead. Have fun with it: but it's simply because you know he was the best.
 
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