In light of school shootings,cliques, and bullying would you Home school?

[woodguyatl]

I'm considering Home schooling my kids for high school....well not me but my wife.

I know the math surrounding school shootings is that it probably wont happen to your kid. I guess it's just the totality of Public High school environments that is cause for parental concern.

I have a niece that says in today's high school environments it's almost normal for children to experiment with homosexuality. Cyber bullying is pretty bad to were my niece had her phone taken away and even though it stopped the taunts she was depressed about not having the phone.

I was teased for being the tall kid but never bullied. I'm thinking bullying has morphed into some kind of psychological/emotional torture for certain kids since I graduated High school 25 years ago.

Any way in light of every thing in Public education if you could afford it. Would you let the wife quit working and home school your kid?

If safety is your primary goal, then the best argument for homeschooling is that the child is much more likely to be killed in an a wreck commuting to school on a daily basis than actually be hurt at school.

Not sure about your concern over "homosexuality." High School kids experiment with a lot of shit, drugs, alcohol, unsafe sex, cheating, trying on different "personalities", stupid haircuts. Experimenting with homosexuality ain't going to make someone gay.

Also, homeschooling will make a full-time job look easy. How are your wife's Calculus, Physics, and European History skills? Could she lead your child through a good discussion of the Iliad? What foreign language is she fluent in? In general, at the HS level homeschooling is not really at home. It is managing a network of tutors, group classes and other activities. Basically it just becomes a private school without a physical building.

I fight the urge to be an overly protective Dad everyday, but kids can learn a lot in a school environment that is useful later in life.

 

[beastman]

Main reasons I wouldn't home school are:

1. I have to work
2. Kids wouldn't really pay attention
3. Our public schools are top notch
4. I want the kids out of the house to learn
5. I'm hoping reasonable gun control can occur

Tim Tebow was home schooled...last I checked he is far more successful and wealthy then you sir will ever be.

Tim Tebow is dumber than a bag of rocks the last time I checked and has money because of his athletic talent. Tyler Hansbourough is in the same boat. Dude couldn't read Chicken Little.

 

[Seaside]

I understand that it's part of Biology courses. I just think that it has NOT been proven in any measurable or observable way which is what science states something needs to have to be considered a valid theory or Fact.

I believe that there is far more measurable and observable evidence that we were created by a power and intelligence above our ability to quantify or perceive . I teach my kids that this power and intelligence is Yaweh of the Christian bible and Torah.

I'd hate for one day my kids to question any of the morals and values and precepts I've worked so hard to instill in them because some guy said we evolved from primates, that came from lizard, that was once a fish, that use to be bacteria that initially exploded from nothing.

your kids screaming in pain because they fell from gods grace in hell. This is according to your belief system if you are a true follower. Which of course you are not. Typical old scared man thinking. What are chances in 30 years you will be alive still and your kids will be ´true christians´´? Every generation get less religious which means so many good christians kids will turn out to become the opposite of what they hope and suffer gods punishment!

 

[Seaside]

Home School homes are typically creepy fucking environments from what I've seen. Sheltering kids from bully peers will not protect them from bully fathers and mothers.

OP is proving it is to keep them unintelligent by teaching fairy tales and forcing them to be one way. This type of repression is why so many good kids end up fucked up on drugs or doing porn.

Parent domination control of kids does not always mean good things. Parents are often the cause of fucked up idiots just look at this subforum and how so many people were probably raised to spew hate 24/7 and get off on others suffering for being wrong or whatever. Oh but evil ´government/marxism´ trying to teach secularism or humane rules that apply to everyone. Oh and all the cult religions also home school the kids to basically!

 

[ralphc1]

home schooling is usually like the person who represents themselves in court. They have a fool for a client.

While it is much easier to get a quality education online these days, the interaction with a variety of people is still essential in life.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

While it is much easier to get a quality education online these days, the interaction with a variety of people is still essential in life.

School is not the only place a child can interact with other people. There are plenty of social groups, clubs, camps and volunteer opportunities where a child can engage in various types of social interaction that are both positive and negative.

 

[Lord_Impaler]

If your problem with public education is mainly progressive indoctrination I would think Christian/private school would be the obvious next choice. Home schooling, to me, seems nearly impossible with work and what not.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

Well, what if we just encouraged sending the funding other places? Say with a goal of having 50 to 60% of school funds allocated to education and away from sports? Then if we did some things to cut down the promotion and corruption of school sports as a financial and ultimate cultural attraction that might just take care of the problem.

I don't mean to demonize the public school system, however, it is not great and in many cases not that good compared to what education should be in a developed country. There will need to be a lot of compromises and opening of proverbial eyes to solve these problems.

i think the ed system in all countries is on the verge of a revolution, though i dont know exactly what it will look like. so all of this is going to change soon anyway, imo.

our public schools vary wildly even from district to district. some public ed in the USA is the very best education that you'll find anywhere on earth. literally the next district over, you can find some of the worst education in any developed country. so i hesitate to use vague sweeping judgments like so many in this thread are doing.

 

[Jack Handy jr]

So which Bible story would you go with, Adam and Eve or the 7 days?

They are no less incompatible with each other than evolution is to either.

says you

 

[Jack Handy jr]

If your problem with public education is mainly progressive indoctrination I would think Christian/private school would be the obvious next choice. Home schooling, to me, seems nearly impossible with work and what not.

ideally I would like a good Christian academy with small class sizes however they are too expensive

 

[Jack Handy jr]

The Governor of Texas raised the possibility that the Parents in some cases could be held accountable. The reasoning was that the shooter got the gun from his fathers gun cabinet. I wonder how the NRA will interpret this possibility? The lieutenant Governor just talked over more talking points from the Florida shooting reducing the number of entrances and hiring more security personal. NRA going to be writing some really big checks to these Politicians in the millions. The NRA better conven an emergency session to raise 10's of millions from the gun manufacturers.

Parents should beheld responsible if their kid can just grab their gun and walk out the house with it. if you have a pistol at minimum lock it. if you have long guns then imho you should have a safe or secure gun cabinet.

 

[Jack Handy jr]

I wouldn't home school I think it's bad for you socially.

I've found kids from private school, boarding schools and home schools were more likely to be a bit odd.

The nicest and more normal people went to normal public schools and i think its important for children's development learning to deal with different types of people.

surely you must be joking. Most people that attended public schools are ass'es, depressed, or morally deficient that's from my experience as a police officer.

 

[Jack Handy jr]

If safety is your primary goal, then the best argument for homeschooling is that the child is much more likely to be killed in an a wreck commuting to school on a daily basis than actually be hurt at school.

Not sure about your concern over "homosexuality." High School kids experiment with a lot of shit, drugs, alcohol, unsafe sex, cheating, trying on different "personalities", stupid haircuts. Experimenting with homosexuality ain't going to make someone gay.

Also, homeschooling will make a full-time job look easy. How are your wife's Calculus, Physics, and European History skills? Could she lead your child through a good discussion of the Iliad? What foreign language is she fluent in? In general, at the HS level homeschooling is not really at home. It is managing a network of tutors, group classes and other activities. Basically it just becomes a private school without a physical building.

I fight the urge to be an overly protective Dad everyday, but kids can learn a lot in a school environment that is useful later in life.

my wife is more than capable with teaching any mathematical discipline.

And as far as subjects like history, writing, and science imo it's just memorize and regurgitate for the test. Not really problem solving and thinking like Math.

Learning French or Spanish looks good on a resume but it's not crucial imo.

And imo I wouldn't want my kid exposed to a peer pressure environment where homo sexual mores are accepted, experimented with, condoned and celebrated.

IMO....no parent if they're being honest wants their son or daughter to turn out gay. The one's that say it's "okay" or "they don't mind" are lying imo to cover the shame.

 

[Jack Handy jr]

There are better ways to socialize especially better than HS or middle. In HS or Middle, you get yelled at for talking to friends in class. You can only talk during lunch or in the hallways getting your books and heading to next class.

Or maybe gym class. But lets face it. Its the same darn kids over and over again. You don't meet any new people unless a new kid arrives. School is a terribly anti-proactive way of socializing.

completely agree I mentioned earlier ITT that I clearly remember getting in trouble for talking or passing notes. "you're not here to socialize sir" is burned into my long term memory lol

 

[Liquid Smoke]

But to denounce the obvious design behind something like the Human eye is silly.

Incremental changes caused by chance mutations selected by differential fitness to the environment add up to large morphological changes in species. The eye example was included in Darwin's "Origin of Species".

For those interested in more detail:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_eye

 

[Lord_Impaler]

ideally I would like a good Christian academy with small class sizes however they are too expensive

I thought that smaller, kind of lesser knownChristian schools could be pretty affordable, But I don’t have kids yet so haven’t looked into it.

 

[Jack Handy jr]

Public school education IMO is pot-luck depending where you’re zoned. What’s not pot luck IMO is the behavior, cultural, and political bullshit that you’re forced to accept.

Our son is learning in a environment where it’s just normal to grown up and become a anesthesiologist or M.D. Rather than some random classmate who “made it”. And the access to teachers is truly unbelievable. It’s a type of family who cares for one another (teacher/students/parents) honestly.

I wouldn’t consider homeschooling. Part of life is learning how to deal with people. Our personal opinion is that it’s a disservice to not allow our son to experience all types of individuals....to a point.

One cool thing about private school is sports starts extremely early. And if you can play then tuition is “negotiable”. Another is that we hold chapel every Friday. That’s normal to the kids, to believe in Jesus Christ. I find it hilarious how responsible my 7 year old son is and a large part of that is thanks to his school. His healthy respect for authority and the government blows my mind.

good post,

But I kind of disagree with having to learn how to deal with people as a mid-forties bloke I don’t deal with people unless I have to. I don’t have many friends now because that is what I choose. I constantly get invited to bars, or bar be ques from what I consider work friends. But the few times I’ve tried to bring the work friendship over to an off duty friendship it’s just difficult. When I was single and clubbing, and could get as much sleep as I wanted fine .


but now when I get time off I just want to try and actually get at least 6-7 hours of undisturbed sleep and be with my family.


And the social environment of High school is NOT reality it just isn’t. when you enter college like I did after four years in the Military I had classes with 18 year olds 50 something’s trying to finish random ages, people ethnicities and this wasn’t some community college but a major University.


None of the social angst or bullying, or “cool kids” “in crowd” was present.


When you finally get a job that’s more of a real world social construct with hierarchal structures and unconscious displays of dominance one try’s to attain over coworkers of equal rank.

 

[Jack Handy jr]

Incremental changes caused by chance mutations selected by differential fitness to the environment add up to large morphological changes in species. The eye example was included in Darwin's "Origin of Species".

For those interested in more detail:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_eye

quote from Charles freemason Darwin

"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.”

By adding freemason to his name I'm attempting to bridge the connection between him Lucifer aka " illuminated one" aka "the knowledge bringer" which high level Masons worship as the light bringer or the god of this world.

Which imo lends itself to the great deception spoken of by Jesus to his disciples that would cause a great falling away and would be so profound that even the elect would be deceived, I believe Darwin's "theories" will one day be proven true through some kind of deception. Possibly in the form of some ancient alien seeding b.s. or the holy grail of evolutionists an extremely well hoaxed discovery of a Transitional fossil. in some quarry somewhere.

 

[King of Fists]

Our main motivation is getting away from the liberal/Marxist indoctrination in the education system.

There are plenty of reasons to homeschool but if that's your #1 reason you are stupid and will be probably be raising stupid children.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Home schooled kids are dweebs and weirdos and their parents are bigger weirdos