Imagine it's 1861, you're a US citizen who do you fight for during civil war? | Page 19

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  1. The Diplomat Hard Times

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    1. South Carolina seceded over slavery. They were the first state to secede. Their secession included slavery as a reason for doing so. Others followed shortly afterwards.

    2. The south fired the first shot at Ft. Sumter. They bombarded Fort Sumter, causing the American army to return fire and subsequently surrender. This started the American Civil War.

    How can Lincoln prevent a war if the South fired the first shot?
     
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    Hell no.

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    No, what he should have done was have every slave owner in the south hanged, and divided up their property to be given to their former slaves. A crime punished, and labour paid for, all in one.
     
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    Any response to Lincoln "preventing a war" ?
     
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    Where would I have been born? Who would be my parents? Were we rich, poor, or what?
     
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  6. slivercord Blue Belt

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    Even though it's all hypothetical, it comes down to what you believe in. The war got 2 sides.
     
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    Your "beliefs" would be entirely different. You wouldn't be the same hypothetical person. How can you say what you would done?
     
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  8. skysolo Black Belt

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    "Us"?
     
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  9. slivercord Blue Belt

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    Pick the union and be a good boy.
     
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  10. MysticNinjaJay Yellow Card

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    The Union. Anyone who says the Confederacy is a racist!
     
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    What if your dad was a Southern commander? What if your maternal grandfather was also a solider with the South?
     
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    "boy"... You sure you want to use that term when talking about the Civil War and slavery? That doesn't sound very progressive.

    Imagine being a slave in the south and being promised your freedom if you fought for them.
     
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    That war was super brutal. I'm from Texas so I would fight for the south.. and probably die
     
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  14. slivercord Blue Belt

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    LOL, it's just a humorous kind thread. Why the specifics?
     
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  15. ObsoleteSoul Silver Belt

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    It depends on if I knew what was really going on, and why. Many in the south just saw an aggressive north coming in and fucking them over. They of course didn't have access to all the information on why it was happening.

    Hopefully I would have been informed enough to side with the north.
     
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  16. MysticNinjaJay Yellow Card

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    Yeah let me think about that...the goal of the Confederate States of America was to create a new country where they could maintain the institution of slavery and a racial caste system that promoted White Supremacy. If I were a slave in the South I would think about that, consider that the Union is also promising to free me and abolish slavery altogether so if I had a choice I would say fuck the Confederates and join the Union army...which several Black men did.

    But my understanding of the question is that as I am today with all of my knowledge of history if I was transported back in time and had to pick a side which side would I choose? I would choose the Union and feel that anyone who wouldn't is a racist. Why would you choose the pro-slavery confederacy? Obviously if I was born in the time period with no knowledge of the future I wouldn't even be the same person. Some Blacks did join the Confederate Army with promises of a better life after the war. Many of them didn't have a choice. They were slaves. But asking what we would do if we lived back then isn't a sensible question. No one alive today lived during that time so your knowledge, values, experiences etc. as they stand today wouldn't be a factor.
     
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    ID FIGHT FOR THE SOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!

    not because of slavery but because states rights have basically gone down the shitter unless it is extremely liberals. (sanctuary cities, pot, etc.)
     
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    Lincoln instigated us to fire first by refusing to negotiate. Lied when he said he'd never invade the South after becoming President.
     
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  19. CableandThanos Renowned Expert on Black Society and Culture

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    freeing them and then not counting them as entire human beings, LOL
     
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  20. Fluffernutter Purple Belt

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    Relative was an abolitionist and was killed preCivil War. Family fought for the Union. I assume I would have too.
     
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