"I'm strong but I can't lift heavy weights"

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  1. Some idiot said this to me today. I was to dumbfounded by the statement to say anything. He then went on to say I should do such and such excerises (was some sort of curl) and that it really helps to get the vein sticking out in the bicep.

    After today this person holds the title of biggest retard i've met in a gym. Do you guys have a similar story or heard something as ridiculous?
     
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  2. Fedorable Tree Herder

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    Some people are strong, but can't lift heavy weights. Especially if it is movements that they aren't used to in daily life.
     
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    He's right, you gotta get that vein going.

    Not training related but I once overheard a guy telling some chick that low fat ice cream is sugar free and that they replace the sugar with sucrose because sucrose is lower in fat than sugar.
     
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    This is true. And why I get laughed at when I do curls with the same weight as guys smaller than me. Or why a strong farmer dude wouldn't be able to squat or bench that much the first few days in the gym.

    But for a regular gym goer to say that, it's handitarded.
     
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  5. BeRGLeZ Ramenbowl

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    I was saddened yesterday when I spoke to a guy in the gym deadlifting 460lbs for reps. I complained about the restructuring of the gym and that our space is taken for deadlifts. He said in a really whiney voice "Yeah we need a place where we can do standing bicep curls by the mirror eh??!'
     
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  6. ghostwipe Black Belt

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    All these people need to be eaten....
     
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  7. David Bolton Amateur Fighter

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    It is funny hearing these stories but weren't we all like that once? Maybe if they had proper guidance then they would take the right path. It is not really their fault.
     
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    Talking about biceps, there's one guy at my gym that only trains his biceps. Is f*cking amazing. He goes three times a week, and I haven't seen him exercise any other muscle. I'm serious. There are some guys who just train their arms, but this guy takes it to a whole new level and focuses 100% on his biceps.
     
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  9. David Bolton Amateur Fighter

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    Does he have big GUNZ?
     
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  10. erco Brown Belt

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    This sounds like 1/2 the people in the D&S forums nowadays.
     
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    You hit him with a dumbbell right? right?
     
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  12. amandakissnhug Purple Belt

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    Try grappling with an accomplished wrestler or grappler. My grappling instructor doesn't lift and admits that he can't bench 200lbs. He's 185lbs. and I'm 200lbs and can bench 320lbs. The guy has the craziest grip and he manhandles me all over the mat.
     
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  13. CZMuayThai11 Purple Belt

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    ive had too many of these kinds of encounters to even know where to start. ive even had a good friend say almost exactly the thread title to me. he quit our D1 football team and stop lifting before he said this to me and 5 minutes after gritted out 6 reps of 185 (hes 280). strong people can lift heavy weights, hell barbells are made for lifting compared to refrigerators or hay bales.
     
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  14. Iron Braveheart Conan Beastmode Savage

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    i'm not saying the guy isn't a dumbass, but i consider myself really strong bodyweight wise but not that strong vs the iron. i mean, i weigh in at 200lbs and i can planche (straddle), iron cross on rings, flag, front lever (on high bar and rings), stationary maltese (not on rings yet) and a bunch of other A through C-level gymnastics type movements, but i can't deadlift over 425lbs. unless 425 is a "strong" deadlift for a 200lb guy, which i wouldn't say it is. I've seen guys lighter than me lift more than I can, so i figure i'm not that strong in the weights dept.

    i'm not saying i'm superman or anything, but i consider myself strong but not well versed against the iron.
     
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  15. Lusst Red Belt

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    It's all about what you are accustomed to doing. Everyone who lifts weights will tell you that technique is half (if not more) of the battle.
     
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    Another thing is your body type though. For instance, when I played HS football, we were pretty competitive with out lifts in the weight room. And these two kids who were short and stocky, about 5'8 and 180 for both of them, could lift so much weight because of their body type. Not denying that they weren't strong, but it sure as hell helps.


    On the bench, they have these short arms with a pretty big chest, so they only have to lift the bar a very short distance. Same thing with their short stocky legs on their dead lifts.


    Take me then, I'm 6'4 and weighed in at about 215-220 in HS. I have real long arms and real long legs, so that extra distance I have to lift the weights is a big disadvantage to me. So they could out lift me in the weight room because of our body types, but when we got on the field, I could throw them around like it was nothing. Body type plays a big part in it, in my opinion.
     
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  17. magicman531 Try Sarah Topps

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    If you take a look at olympic lifting, you can notice technique. Awhile back Paul Anderson clean and jerked 434 pounds or so while weighing over 300+ pounds himself. Now Dimas was doing near 470 pounds while weighing less than 190 pounds himself. But are you seriously going to try and tell me Dimas is/was stronger than Anderson?

    That's ridiculous. He had better technique and lifted more weight in that lift. So in a sense he is "stronger." But no way in hell was he "STRONGER" than Paul. You're good at what you practice. So a smaller lifter could lift more than you without actually possessing more "strength." There are also different types of strength.
     
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    All you guys are fucking pussies, if you had any balls at all you'd man up and work the vein in the biceps. Fuck you guys and your deadlifting and squatting and all that useless shit. Biceps veins are the cornerstone of functional strength and hypertrophy, so get a fucking clue why don't cha?

    Pulver > Penn via biceps vein
     
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  19. Xnay Purple Belt

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    Genetics Mother Fuckers...you gotta have good ones
     
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    Fuck that! I have shitty genetics, I was built like Woody Allen before, now I'm still built like him except I have a killer biceps vain. Biceps vein training blows genetic limitations out of the water.
     
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