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President Trump Cracks Down on Sanctuary Cities

The administration targets jurisdictions that limit cooperation between local authorities and federal immigration agents.
By Priscilla Alvarez | Jan 25, 2017

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On Wednesday, Donald Trump signed an executive order aimed at cracking down on so-called “sanctuary cities,” which limit cooperation between state and local law enforcement and federal immigration agents. It follows through on his campaign-trail promise to withhold federal dollars from such cities, which might jeopardize support for services including education, health care, and housing for millions of American citizens.

According to the executive order, dubbed “Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of the United States,” cities that do not comply with federal immigration enforcement agents “are not eligible to receive Federal grants, except as deemed necessary for law enforcement purposes by the Attorney General or the Secretary.” It also notes that the director of the Office of Management and Budget will be responsible for obtaining and providing “relevant and responsive information on all Federal grant money that currently is received by any sanctuary jurisdiction.” It is not clear, however, which grants are at jeopardy.

Earlier in the day, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said at the daily press briefing: “We're going to strip federal grant money from the sanctuary states and cities that harbor illegal immigrants. The American people are no longer going to have to be forced to subsidize this disregard for our laws.”

Sanctuary cities became a topic of debate during the 2016 presidential election. Trump had threatened to pull funding from jurisdictions that limit cooperation with federal authorities. But doing so is a complicated undertaking.

There’s no clear definition of a sanctuary city, but Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Department of Homeland Security’s enforcement arm, found that 165 jurisdictions across the country “have a specific policy limiting cooperation with federal authorities,” according to an analysis of ICE records obtained by The Texas Tribune. Federal officials rely on state and local law enforcement to identify people who may be in violation of immigration laws. In some jurisdictions, however, state and local forces will refuse to turn them over to federal authorities.

The process goes as follows: Police officers arrest immigrants for matters unrelated to their immigration status, and they are booked in local jails, where their fingerprints are taken and eventually shared with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, as is required by law. ICE will ask officials to hold individuals if they are in violation of immigration laws while ICE obtains a warrant. County and municipal policies dictate whether officials will comply, or instead release the individuals in question.

Following Trump’s election, mayors and governors nationwide reaffirmed their opposition to Trump’s position on sanctuary cities. Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said the city would continue to be a sanctuary city: “Immigration is the responsibility of our federal government. We’ve been very clear it’s not the responsibility of LAPD.” He added: “We participate all the time with our federal immigration authorities and we will continue to do so. We just require, as the courts have decided, that there be a warrant.” Connecticut Governor Dannel Malloy echoed concerns about Trump’s deportation strategy. New Haven Police Department spokesperson Officer David Hartman said there was no intention to change the city’s sanctuary policy.

Cities receive federal funding from several agencies, posing possible challenges for how a crackdown could be put into effect. While the executive branch administers most grants, “a lot of the statutory authority for those grants has very specific language about how they can or can’t allocate them,” Lena Graber, a special projects attorney at the Immigrant Legal Resource Center told me, adding “I think it’s sort of an open legal question about what the agencies can change without getting official legislation or congressional approval to the statutes enacting those grants.”

Graber also pointed to Supreme Court precedent as a possible obstacle. She argued that the 2012 ruling that upheld Obamacare, which said it’s unconstitutional to withdraw Medicaid funding if states did not agree to the expansion of the program, might also apply to requiring states to comply with federal immigration agents. Still, by ordering federal funds to be cut, the administration could put funding at risk for other areas, such as education and health care.

Jessica Vaughan, the director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies, which supports reduced immigration, argues that compliance with federal immigration enforcement is important for “public safety reasons.” She said that there’s “better ways to build trust with immigrant communities than having sanctuary policies that obstruct immigration enforcement.”

But that’s an argument that cuts both ways. Previous immigration-enforcement initiatives, like the Secure Communities program, created a wedge between local law enforcement and communities, making them harder to police. That prompted a backlash from governors, mayors, and state and local enforcement officials. A crackdown on sanctuary cities might also risk creating conflict between local law enforcement and communities. Spicer said the administration also intends to “restore” the Secure Communities Program, “which will help ICE agents target illegal immigrants for removal.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trump-crack-down-sanctuary-city/514427/
 
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Cities and States in the Us have a tradition of standing up to the federal government when it tries to force thing they do not like. This is not going to be a simply fight for Trump.
 
Cities and States in the Us have a tradition of standing up to the federal government when it tries to force thing they do not like. This is not going to be a simply fight for Trump.
I remember him saying he'd cut their federal funding if they continue with sanctuary policies. Is that more complicated than it sounds?
 
Do cities like San Fran need Federal money? Seems like they do well by themselves. It would be interesting to see what the US would look like if liberal cities like LA and San Fran stopped paying federal tax.
 
I remember him saying he'd cut their federal funding if they continue with sanctuary policies. Is that more complicated than it sounds?

Yes. For one most of these cities get relatively small amounts of federal funding compared to there overall budgets. Within that funding a good portion is for projects that are really not necessities. Further more some federal funding is provided through statute that maybe written in such a way that Trump would need congressional action to cut the funding. Lot of congressional voters in larger cities.
 
Trump's taking the "Just rip that bandaid right off" approach to civil interaction between his government and the American people.
 
Do cities like San Fran need Federal money? Seems like they do well by themselves. It would be interesting to see what the US would look like if liberal cities like LA and San Fran stopped paying federal tax.

No they dont. Liberal cities pay more in federal tax than funding they receive. If all the liberal cities left all you get is middle America that needs extensive federal funding and Texas pulling all the weight.
 
sanctuary cities already said they are going to fight against this
 
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No they dont. Liberal cities pay more in federal tax than funding they receive. If all the liberal cities left all you get is middle America that needs extensive federal funding and Texas pulling all the weight.
Thats what I kinda figured. These big cities are self sustaining and most are liberal strongholds.
 
This will get ugly. Whether you're for or against, this will get ugly.
 
getting some good use out of that phone and pen...
 
I remember him saying he'd cut their federal funding if they continue with sanctuary policies. Is that more complicated than it sounds?

hi there Giblert,

lol, yes, it is much more complicated than it sounds.

Two core rules of federalism preclude Trump’s idea: The federal government can’t coerce states (or cities) into action with a financial “gun to the head,” according to Supreme Court precedent developed by Chief Justice John Roberts in the 2012 Affordable Care Act case. And federal officials can’t “commandeer” state officials to do their work for them under a 1997 decision that involved gun purchases under the Brady Act.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-11-29/sanctuary-cities-are-safe-thanks-to-conservatives

- IGIT
 
I think even if you don't like Trump, looking at it from a bird's eye view, there had to be some kind of shift away from where the left was going. I appreciate the motivation for equality as well as other issues on the left, but it's gotten way out of hand and there needed to be a correction, imo.
 
Yes. For one most of these cities get relatively small amounts of federal funding compared to there overall budgets. Within that funding a good portion is for projects that are really not necessities. Further more some federal funding is provided through statute that maybe written in such a way that Trump would need congressional action to cut the funding. Lot of congressional voters in larger cities.
Where overall budgets?

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No, San Francisco. Katie Steinle. Got murdered by an illegal that was deported like 5 times.

Shot dead in front of her father on the pier.

I was going to say SF. That was very sad. I would kill that guy with my bare hands.
 

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