If you wanted to rig your enemies election...

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  1. Starman

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    I'm not arguing what anything should be legally, I'm simply explaining to you how the United States elects presidents.

    Custom is not law. And how the people vote in Maine has no bearing on where California's electoral votes go.

    The popular vote counts the total number of votes each candidate received nationwide. If the popular vote decided the election, Hillary Clinton would be the president.

    No, it isn't. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. She did not win the election. No amount of semantics will ever change that.

    No, it isn't. Who won the popular vote, and who won the election?

    Because most Americans don't have an adequate understanding of the electoral system, this nation's history, the values it was founded on, or the reasons why our Founding Fathers created a Constitutional Republic over a democracy.

    It is a joke. Who won the popular vote, and who won the election? The popular vote does not determine who the president is. If it did, Hillary Clinton would be the president and not Donald Trump.
     
  2. KONG-D'SNT-TAP

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    That’s not total votes tho. I’m not disagreeing on how an election is won you know. That is a different conversation.

    If we’re talking about most votes combined she had the most. I don’t know what the big deal is to agree with that statement
     
  3. Starman

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    Because winning the most votes is not the same as winning a majority of votes. And neither decides who the president will be, nor should they. So what is YOUR point?
     
  4. HIMBOB

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    And I quote
    "If you were a world leader and wanted to rig your enemies election which of the following would be desirable outcomes?"

    Which bit is confusing you?

    I used small words and everything.
     
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    I don't even know what you're arguing here. Yes she lost the electorate but she had more total votes against the other people she was up against.
     
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    Only a handful of people are having a hard time grasping who received more votes. You happen to be one of them.

    But for the hundredth time, no one is arguing that she lost the electorate. So for heavens sake please stop saying that.
     
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    Well he is the Israel kid
     
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    This has been a fun thread.
    @Starman slapping fools down. Then slapping down the reinforcements.

    Seems only @KONG-D'SNT-TAP has failed to realise that his side made a stupid point.
     
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    Sure they do, Ron Paul is a good example and his name wasn't even mentioned in MSM despite insane popularity on the net.
     
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    JFK also had high moral fiber count. Is there a pattern here?
     
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    This literally never happened
     
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    im a sociopath so the only solution is making me President.
     
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    Ron Paul?
    Get real
     
  15. Starman

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    Nothing is confusing to me, though you seem to be having a bit of trouble separating reality from fantasy.

    You asked "If you were a world leader and wanted to rig your enemies election which of the following would be desirable outcomes?"

    That is literally a second conditional sentence [if + past tense, would + base verb]. We use second conditional sentences to talk about unreal situations, imaginary situations, impossible situations, or unlikely situations.

    As I said earlier, your entire premise is imaginary. You are imagining "riggers", and asking us to imagine "riggers" as well. It's not real. It didn't happen. You are asking us what we think imaginary riggers would want in your imaginary situation.

    As I told you, imaginary riggers could want whatever you imagine they wanted. It has no bearing or connection with reality whatsoever.

    Maybe you should stick to reality rather than unfounded, unsubstantiated, imaginary hypotheticals.
     
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    And you are having a hard time grasping mathematics. Hillary had more votes than Trump, but not a majority of the votes. Right or wrong?

    Then what are you arguing? We all know she won the popular vote, genius. The problem is that you got all stupid and snarky when I said she didn't win the majority of the votes, to which you replied:

    Yes. It is how math works. Do you now admit my statement was correct all along?
     
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    You cannot make this shit up.
     
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    Hah!
    Truly a gift that keeps on giving.
    There are not enough facepalms in all the world.
     
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    Yes I was VERY CLEARLY asking about an imaginary hypothetical. Why can't I do that?
     
  20. Starman

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    You can. I just questioned your logic of a "rigger" wanting a candidate to win the popular vote but lose the election when the popular vote doesn't decide the presidency.

    What impact do your imaginary riggers in your imaginary world think this would have?
     

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