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Discussion in 'The War Room' started by TalkinNoise, Jul 19, 2015.
So following bad orders makes you courageous?
Look at this courage on display!
They knew that the odds were against them but thought with Lee they would carry the day.
Do you think on D day the outcome was Assured?
No but despite the horrible loss of life the made it. D day could very well have turned into a Pickett's charge.
I thought you studied history enuff to view it from the perspective of the time and not looking back with hindsight.
PLAYBOY: Wasn't the Civil War fought to decide whether this nation could, in the words of Lincoln, "endure permanently half slave and half free"?
MALCOLM X: Sir, many, many people are completely misinformed about Lincoln and the Negro. That war involved two thieves, the North and the South, fighting over the spoils. The further we get away from the actual incident, the more they are trying to make it sound as though the battle was over the black man. Lincoln said that if he could save the Union without freeing the slaves, he would. But after two years of killing and carnage he found out he would have to free the slaves. He wasn't interested in the slaves but in the Union.
I actually have been studying the Civil War a lot recently and I'll readily admit that the individual Southern soldier was quite valorous compared to his counterparts in the Union army, but using the ultimate display of incompetence by the Northern Army of Virginia as some sort of defense of the Confederate flag seems silly to me.
At least point to Antietam or Fredericksburg or something.
You are leaving out the other part in which the South was totally in it for the slaves from the start. Not freeing them, but keeping them as property indefinitely.
Everyone was still racist then, Lincoln included.
Didn't see that part.
Oh yeah, Malcom X didn't say it but we all know it was true because of history and junk..
I agree with this.
Except for the part about blacks voting, because that was already being proposed at the time of Emancipation Proclamation. It took a little bit longer than the prohibition of slavery, but not by much. Black men got the right to vote within five years of the end of the war, and did vote in large numbers throughout the Reconstruction era, protected by federal troops. During the 1870s Mississippi sent two black senators to Washington.
Of course, as soon as the federal troops returned home, blacks in the South effectively lost the right to vote.
What was the swastika used for originally, was it developed by the Germans.
So because an evil culture took it under their wing, the original people can never use it again?
So every country that has commited serious atrocities should change their flag?
I don't understand why so many people want to publicly side with the losing team.
It's like they all want to wear Falcons Super Bowl 51 jerseys while sporting Tom Brady tattoos.
So kinda like Hillary Clinton can publicly state that she admired Sanger and nobody cares? Intradesting...
I come to the war room for the stupid. Thank you for this stupid comment. I can leave now.
It would be nice if people flew the original flag for a change. It would still signify a remembrence for all the soldiers who fought and died but without the uneeded spectacle thr battle flag brings.
repping that naval flag
That just makes me embrace the flag even more just to piss you SJWs off.
I don't own this flag or wear it but I did watch The Dukes of Hazzard as a kid.
I support freedom of expression and just like it's legal for a punk rocker to wear a Swastika I feel the same towards this.
And remember the slave states of the North.
I would argue that the actual Confederate flag represents racism and that the battle flag is an appropriate symbol of heritage, but whatev's
I consider flying it an act of free speech, as I consider it my right to consider the people who fly it likely hillbillies. The South was fighting for slavery, true, but most of the people who died in the grey were most likely just fighting for what they saw as their home. I feel the whole issue is a little overblown, but if people aren't racists in day to day life I don't mind them embracing their heritage. How many atrocities has the Union Jack looked down upon? It's a slippery slope.
In America, we have the right to be racist.