If the U.S. Marine Corps is a separate service so should other subdivisions be

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  1. Ghost in the Dark

    Ghost in the Dark Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    The Marines obviously are supposed to be part of the navy but they have weirdly morphed into a separate service in the U.S.A. which duplicates elements of the Army and Air Force.

    The U.S.M.C. has drifted so far from its original mission that the Navy now has made effectively a new marines group under its command, under the N.E.C.C. Navy Expeditionary Combat Command, to do the jobs the marines were supposed to do.

    If the Marines are a separate service then the Naval Air Force, Army Fleet and U.S.A.F. Ground Forces should also be separate services.
     
  2. sub_thug

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    The Marines are still dependent on the Navy for logistics and administration, same as it has always been
     
  3. Exception

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    Okey dokey. Do the generals and elected leaders agree with you? Why not?
     
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  5. tehend

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    Brilliant!
     
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    sounds like a great way to achieve more teeth with less tail

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  7. Roaming East

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    Jesus Christ no. USAF ground forces still operate with, within, and amongst, an almost entirely USAF based community. Half the problem i had during my service as Army detached was that Army by and large, dont speak Air Force Lingo. At the end of the day, i communicate with pilots, aircrew, and support personnel and removing me from that culture would not have served any purpose except to force army guys to go through years of air force training to fill the deficit. hell, in the USMC, i think they had to have actually been pilots at one point to be FAC's. every other service either sends them Air Force way for training or like the navy has its own aerial warfare schools to do it.
     
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    shit, i remember having to repeatedly brief to Army commanders that 'all weather' doesnt mean a strike aircraft can operate in serious rain but that it has night navigation equipment because in the USAF its understood that day and night count as weather
     
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    And if there's one thing the Marine Corps is good at it's abrupt, radical change.
     
  11. 7437

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    if they werent part of the navy then BAS could be payed in crayons.
     
  12. SaiWa

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    USMC is considered the red headed stepchild of all of the services. Overall they do the most dangerous work for the least amount of funding but that's generalizing. Obviously the majority of the Marines will not experience the level of danger a US Army Ranger unit will experience in combat but there are certain jobs that can reach that level.. If I wanted to live dangerously i'd volunteer to be an EOD technician or a friggin' driver (yes drivers have a dangerous in the Middle East).

    A fuckin' combat support role is considered one of the most dangerous jobs in the military forces. go figure.
     
  13. Roaming East

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    Infantry is infantry. I don’t think simply being marine infantry makes it any more dangerous than army infantry
     
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    You're right, everything U.S.A.F. Ground forces do is to support the overall Air Force mission. Except when they had security forces take over detainee operations. Then we were just covering for the army's fuckups.
     
  15. SaiWa

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    in this day and age yeah I agree.

    If I were to rate/rank infantry quality then Marines are first, followed by Army, Navy then Air Force. Boot camp for Marines is definitely the toughest out of the lot.

    Aside from Special Forces, Marines would be the first substantial force to enter and engage in most traditional war situations so I'd say its more dangerous to be a Marine infantry but if we are talking about holding and controlling a country (Afghanistan for example) then that's where the Army infantry comes in and that comes with a whole new set of dangers...
     
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    Tactical air control party?
     
  17. Roaming East

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    I wouldn’t rate a force on how difficult it’s boot camp is...those are basically designed to be passed, kinda like hazing. What counts is your career fields specific training. For example, usmc jtacs get about 9 months of training whereas usaf jtacs get almost a year and a half before being considered operational
     
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    Sowt with jtac qualification
     
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    OP has 0 valid points so i'll just drop these here and be on my way

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