If Jones cheated why is he competing?

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  1. real2124

    real2124 Green Belt

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    Not trolling.

    I thought he was busted... Or did his tainted supplement actually hold up?

    If he was cleared why is everyone acting like he's guilty?
     
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    Dragon Punch Sea Level Poster

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    If you lost your bet why are you still posting? Welcher.
     
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    Because he didn't cheat.

    The USADA list is full of shit that provides no athletic benefit. Plenty on that list which has no research showing any benefits - such as dick pills.
     
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    IBeLurkin I see you've come to this battle of wits unarmed

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    He was given a year suspension, it's been a year.

    Not too complicated really...
     
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    Because the UFC really likes that green paper stuff.
     
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    shaffmeister GRACIE BARRA

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    you really think he took some dick pills that made him test positive for letrozole and clomid? do you understand how strong letrozole is?
     
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    yeah wtf this isn't rocket science guys
     
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    Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

    As per half the mma roster.
     
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    The guest Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card Yellow Card Banned

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    The suspension ends in July. There isn't a sane person on this planet that believes he wasn't cheating. USADA is sketchy as fuck. Time moves on.
     
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    What benefit does it give you athletically? Link your peer reviewed research on the topic.

    USADA seems to agree with me, otherwise he would have been banned for two years.

    To me, it seems very very reasonable that Jon Jones, an idiot who was somehow still driving after all the shit he went through, could do something as stupid as take too many 'dick' pills from a truck stop before the biggest fight of his life - I would not find that far fetched at all.
     
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    So dumb people assume he's trying so often he had a " not trolling" disclaimer.

    Usada is rediculous.
    he did his time.
    Edited out my rant
     
  12. christer

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    If you thought before you posted you might find the answers yourself.
     
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    shaffmeister GRACIE BARRA

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    letrozole crushes your estrogen levels, and clomid kicks your natural testosterone production back on. both are used for post cycle therapy after steroid/testosterone use. He used the tainted supplement trick just like Yoel Romero did. but fuck it I'm glad they beat the system, all steroids might as well be legal. lets go back to the pride days
     
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    The tainted pills and supplement excuse is overused and can be used to cheat.

    If a fighter comes across a supplement that he knows is tainted, instead of getting rid of it he can keep it to submit to USADA when he gets busted for the PEDs he's using.
     
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    I don't think TS realizes it's the substances that are banned, not the fighters who test positive for using them. His punishment will be expired.
     
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    Couple of things bro,

    Yoel Romero did not use any trick. Romero got tested out of competition, they found a banned substance, he gave the supplements he was using to USADA who then tested samples off the shelf at stores in the area and CONFIRMED it was a tainted batch. So unless you want to pretend USADA made it all up and just let Romero off the hook to juice - then you are just wrong, factually wrong. Yoel has never tested positive once in his life - under all the UFC testing and the Olympic testing - not even historical batches of samples which were tested - so if you want to keep arguing that, i'd rather beat a baby seal as its a superior challenge.

    Letrozole does not crush estrogen levels, it CANNOT remove estrogen in the body but block production - so im not sure where you are getting 'crushed' from - certainly it could be used to MASK usage however it is more likely the amount found in the 'dick' pills which USADA confirmed did exist was the culprit. Also, it proves absolutely nothing. Clomid is also an EXTREMELY common ingredient in sexual enhancement pills. Again its far more likely that Jon, the party animal needed some help to get his dick hard to fuck the mountain of whores he encounters in the various bars and crack dens he frequents.
     
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    Just incase you were wondering when you lost the argument...
     
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    Jones, a known coke fiend, was suspended for one year for a violation. Nothing else matters. His apologists can make all the excuses they want, the hit-and-run artist is not currently an eligible fighter.
     
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    Thanks for that breakdown. I didn't know that. I'm kinda rethinking the situation a bit.
     
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  20. shaffmeister

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    when i say letrozole crushes estrogen, I don't mean that it literally kills off all of your estrogen. even though it's a type 2 aromatase inhibitor it still lowers your estrogen extremely fast. It's the strongest AI known to man. It can fucking reverse full blown gyno. hell it was even used in the past to terminate pregnancy. whoever puts these in some boner pills is a fool, and so is anyone willing to take a gas station boner pill. jon jones could've easily gotten a prescription for cialis or viagra if he wanted to. Do you believe that anderson silvas "boner pills" caused him to test positive for masteron also?

    As far as Yoel goes, he may not have tested positive but give me a fucking break. you're a fool if you think you can obtain that much muscle at 40 years old. ESPECIALLY while cutting weight.
     
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