UPDATE: Now that JON JONES is declared innocent he is only 1 win away from catching JOSE ALDO

Nah, even though promotionally speaking LHW is a significantly more attractive division on the level of pure spectacle, 145 always has more fighters than 205. That simply would not be the case if 205 had a deeper talent pool to draw from than 145, so, clearly, even when soccer is factored in the fact that the average American/Brazilian man is far closer to FW size than LHW size to begin with means 145 is still a deeper talent pool.

Nobody with any credibility disputes that the heavier divisions are much shallower. Even former HW Frank Mir has said it's far easier to get to the top in the heavier classes than at FW, LW and WW, and nobody has more invested in pumping up HWs than the HWs themselves, so it's always weird/adorable when deluded fanboys try to make that argument.

I mean, the fact you attempted this goofy spin and yet conveniently left out basketball, the second largest sport on the planet, shows you're either a goober who doesn't have the slightest clue regarding how any of this works or you're a goober who is only interested in bringing some kind of fake news. I don't know which kind of goober you are. I don't really care either. Fact is you're empirically, objectively, scientifically wrong either way.

Wrong again.

"While as many as 1,900 players will play in the tournaments this year, over 26 million Americans play basketball (according to the SGMA's U.S. Trends in Team Sports research). 15.5 million people play casual/pick-up basketball. 4.1 million play in organized leagues. 5.8 million play on a school or college team."

Top 10 most popular sports in the world.

1.Soccer
2.Cricket
3.Field Hockey
4.Tennis
5.VolleyBall
6.Table Tennis
7.Baseball
8.Golf
9.*BasketBall*
9.American Football

As you can see the large majority of the popular sports do not involve HW's.

Now the reason why its harder in lower weight classes is because they are more athletic, but it would be foolish if we are going to pretend that MMA has the most athletic FW's in the world when that is the weight class that is competing for athletes with the most popular sport in the world.

Please name me Aldo's 5 best wins, and then tell me if those fighters are ao much better than Cain, JDS, Overeem, Werdum, Stipe.
 
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If Bones comes back then I'd love to see Gus vs jones 2 while DC vs Stipe happens.
 
9.*BasketBall*

Lol. Your fantasy world is adorable.

Meanwhile though, back in reality:

#2. Basketball: "Basketball is second only to Football in terms of professional sports leagues around the world."
http://www.totalsportek.com/most-popular-sports/
#2. Basketball: "Basketball is the fastest growing sport on every scale ..."
https://www.pledgesports.org/2017/06/10-most-popular-sports-in-the-world/
#2. Basketball
http://www.biggestglobalsports.com/
#2. Basketball
http://www.mostpopularsports.net/
#2. Basketball
https://list25.com/25-most-popular-sports-in-the-world/
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Anyone who is not an imbecile knows that the majority, by far, of professional MMA fighters come out of the USA, a country in which a serious young athlete chosen at random is most likely to be drawn to football first, basketball second and baseball third - all sports which feature athletes whose average size is in the MW-HW range.
http://i.imgur.com/5ZnnFch.png
https://sporteology.com/top-10-most-popular-sports-in-america/
https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/most-popular-american-sports

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Meanwhile, the second highest number of pro MMA fighters come from Brazil (in 2017 there were more than 3 Americans to each Brazilian), where soccer is king, followed by volleyball, in which a typical high level Brazilian player is between 5'11" to 6'9" and weighs between 170lbs to 220lbs - i.e., LW to LHW.
http://thebrazilbusiness.com/article/15-most-popular-sports-in-brazil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_in_sports#Volleyball
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/d...012/aug/07/olympic-athletes-age-weight-height


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Lol. Your fantasy world is adorable.

Meanwhile though, back in reality:

#2. Basketball: "Basketball is second only to Football in terms of professional sports leagues around the world."
http://www.totalsportek.com/most-popular-sports/
#2. Basketball: "Basketball is the fastest growing sport on every scale ..."
https://www.pledgesports.org/2017/06/10-most-popular-sports-in-the-world/
#2. Basketball
http://www.biggestglobalsports.com/
#2. Basketball
http://www.mostpopularsports.net/
#2. Basketball
https://list25.com/25-most-popular-sports-in-the-world/
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Anyone who is not an imbecile knows that the majority, by far, of professional MMA fighters come out of the USA, a country in which a serious young athlete chosen at random is most likely to be drawn to football first, basketball second and baseball third - all sports which feature athletes whose average size is in the MW-HW range.
http://i.imgur.com/5ZnnFch.png
https://sporteology.com/top-10-most-popular-sports-in-america/
https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/most-popular-american-sports


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Meanwhile, the second highest number of pro MMA fighters come from Brazil (in 2017 there were more than 3 Americans to each Brazilian), where soccer is king, followed by volleyball, in which a typical high level Brazilian player is between 5'11" to 6'9" and weighs between 170lbs to 220lbs - i.e., LW to LHW.
http://thebrazilbusiness.com/article/15-most-popular-sports-in-brazil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_in_sports#Volleyball
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/d...012/aug/07/olympic-athletes-age-weight-height

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If you're over 7 foot tall you can basically have a 17% chance to be an NBA player. That's fucking ridiculous. Lionel messi is literally one in a billion. LeBron is like 1 in a few thousand.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglob...playing-nba/fNnbP8zybYfXZtsw0eYPDK/story.html
 
Aldo went 25-0 in his first 25 fights at FW (including 9 title defenses).
Jones is 22-1 (1) in his first 24 fights at LHW (including 8 title defenses).

If Jones is cleared of intentional wrongdoing for his latest PED failure he will effectively be 24-0 going into his next fight, only one short of Aldo's legendary run to start his career.


Notes for Hardcores:
  1. Aldo's only loss in his first 26 fights was a short-notice outing at 155.
  2. Of course unlike Aldo, Jones decided not to test himself above his division only 8 fights into his career. But that's beside the point.
  3. Jones's Hamill loss wasn't a real loss.
  4. GSP went 23-2 in his first 25 fights at WW (but was challenging for the world title in only his 8th fight).
  5. Of course 145 and 155 are much deeper talent pools than 205, since the average athletic Brazilian/American man is around 5'9"-5'10" and 165-175lbs - i.e., someone who would cut to LW - so Aldo and GSP, in divisions immediately to either side of LW, effectively had to climb higher mountains than Jones. (LHW of course is the most celebrity-filled division due to promotional practices, but this is MMA ... even before CM Punk turned up we all understood level of fame is not the same as level of talent in this game. Fame - aka "Name" value - holds even after a fighter leaves their prime.) THAT SAID, at 205lbs it can be argued that while the path isn't as challenging in p4p talent-depth terms, the margin for error is lower due to the amount of power in play.
  6. Jon Jones has been my favourite fighter to watch for the last half decade or so, so yes ... I am one biased motherfucker and rooting for him to beat this latest charge.
  7. Fedor is the GOAT.
And if he’s guilty he’d be a hero to a zero
 
Lol. Your fantasy world is adorable.

Meanwhile though, back in reality:

#2. Basketball: "Basketball is second only to Football in terms of professional sports leagues around the world."
http://www.totalsportek.com/most-popular-sports/
#2. Basketball: "Basketball is the fastest growing sport on every scale ..."
https://www.pledgesports.org/2017/06/10-most-popular-sports-in-the-world/
#2. Basketball
http://www.biggestglobalsports.com/
#2. Basketball
http://www.mostpopularsports.net/
#2. Basketball
https://list25.com/25-most-popular-sports-in-the-world/
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Anyone who is not an imbecile knows that the majority, by far, of professional MMA fighters come out of the USA, a country in which a serious young athlete chosen at random is most likely to be drawn to football first, basketball second and baseball third - all sports which feature athletes whose average size is in the MW-HW range.
http://i.imgur.com/5ZnnFch.png
https://sporteology.com/top-10-most-popular-sports-in-america/
https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/most-popular-american-sports


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Meanwhile, the second highest number of pro MMA fighters come from Brazil (in 2017 there were more than 3 Americans to each Brazilian), where soccer is king, followed by volleyball, in which a typical high level Brazilian player is between 5'11" to 6'9" and weighs between 170lbs to 220lbs - i.e., LW to LHW.
http://thebrazilbusiness.com/article/15-most-popular-sports-in-brazil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_in_sports#Volleyball
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/d...012/aug/07/olympic-athletes-age-weight-height

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Lol wow you wasted a whole lot of time rambling on about nothing.

You transitioned your argument to focus solely on 2 places USA and Brazil because taking in world statistics proves you wrong.

But you fail to mention that the most popular sport in America that has 26.5 million players ...
https://www.sfia.org/press/433_Over-26-Million-Americans-Play-Basketball

Only has 1900 playing professionally and semi professionally

So unlike your entire point that they have to compete with Basketball, the contrary where there is an abundance of Basketball players that could transition.

Fact is, majority of the popular sports that house big guys provide a greater number athletes who can compete in MMA than take away from, but the idea that if LeBron James didnt play basketball he'd be a MMA fighter is pretty dumb, majority of people do not want to fight in a cage as their profession, even if they are exceptionally athletic.

Thanks for playing ya goof.
 
Everyone seems to be missing the satire in the TS's original post. This thread isn't about jones potentially getting off scotch free for peds; It's about the fact that Aldo's record is a better than Jones's record regardless of whether or not Jones ever popped for peds. Even if Jones was a saint who didn't have any asterisks next to his resume, he'd still be behind Aldo in terms of accomplishments right now.
 
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Renan Barao lost his first pro-fight and then won like 30 fights in a row.
 
the fight is a no contest. its already been change because jones failed.

this is just to see how long he is suspended for if im not mistaken
 
Even if his newest tainted supplement excuse flies, he had t-bol in his system so the last fight will always be a no contest. And his Matt Hamill fight will always be a DQ loss.
 
Lol. Your fantasy world is adorable.

Meanwhile though, back in reality:



Anyone who is not an imbecile knows that the majority, by far, of professional MMA fighters come out of the USA
Meanwhile, the second highest number of pro MMA fighters come from Brazil (in 2017 there were more than 3 Americans to each Brazilian)
lol.... do you have some links to back that up because I dont see where in what you posted there are any sort of statistics to embolden your claims
 
Jones messed it up and he knew it - its a loss even tho it should carry a *, rules are rules.

Really I just want him fighting again, the sport needs Jones!
 
Technically, he isn’t undefeated.

But he was not defeated by anyone. Nobody got the better of him. It’s a technicality. He gave Matt the worst beating of his life that night. It was brutal.
 
Aldo went 25-0 in his first 25 fights at FW (including 9 title defenses).
Jones is 22-1 (1) in his first 24 fights at LHW (including 8 title defenses).

If Jones is cleared of intentional wrongdoing for his latest PED failure he will effectively be 24-0 going into his next fight, only one short of Aldo's legendary run to start his career.


Notes for Hardcores:
  1. Aldo's only loss in his first 26 fights was a short-notice outing at 155.
  2. Of course unlike Aldo, Jones decided not to test himself above his division only 8 fights into his career. But that's beside the point.
  3. Jones's Hamill loss wasn't a real loss.
  4. GSP went 23-2 in his first 25 fights at WW (but was challenging for the world title in only his 8th fight).
  5. Of course 145 and 155 are much deeper talent pools than 205, since the average athletic Brazilian/American man is around 5'9"-5'10" and 165-175lbs - i.e., someone who would cut to LW - so Aldo and GSP, in divisions immediately to either side of LW, effectively had to climb higher mountains than Jones. (LHW of course is the most celebrity-filled division due to promotional practices, but this is MMA ... even before CM Punk turned up we all understood level of fame is not the same as level of talent in this game. Fame - aka "Name" value - holds even after a fighter leaves their prime.) THAT SAID, at 205lbs it can be argued that while the path isn't as challenging in p4p talent-depth terms, the margin for error is lower due to the amount of power in play.
  6. Jon Jones has been my favourite fighter to watch for the last half decade or so, so yes ... I am one biased motherfucker and rooting for him to beat this latest charge.
  7. Fedor is the GOAT.


Hes not innocent though....the fact that he had tainted substances in his system was already proven.
 
Jones messed it up and he knew it - its a loss even tho it should carry a *, rules are rules.

Really I just want him fighting again, the sport needs Jones!

The sport doesnt need a drug addicted, cheating, making death threats on live air, lying, im gonna ram my car into a pregnant ladies ride and run away jackass representing the sport.
 
The sport doesnt need a drug addicted, cheating, making death threats on live air, lying, im gonna ram my car into a pregnant ladies ride and run away jackass representing the sport.
Well he is a poc for all that and more I'm sure - will still pay to watch em scrap. Some individuals elevate the sport regardless of life issues (Tyson anyone).
 
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