I don't need anything else.
You said it increased taxes on the middle class and gave a tax break to the rich. You said that because you're a moron. And you were proved wrong. You were shown that a great service was provided to the lower and lower-middle classes on the dime of the 1%.
Don't blame me that this anecdote is a perfect microcosm of how little you know about the ACA and about the policies of the two major American parties re the middle class.
Where did I say it increased taxes to the Middle Class? I said it shifts the cost onto the Middle Class, just like everything else the government does. You clearly don't actually work or pay bills of any sort. You're just repeating nonsensical Liberal talking points that are discredited by the actual real lives the majority of Americans are living. You're so deep in the bubble of Liberalism that you see the real world as an "anecdote", That's you not knowing or understanding how the world around you works. They can raise taxes on "the rich" as much as they want to. If they don't cut taxes for the Middle Classes while continuing to shift more of the actual burden off onto those people it doesn't matter. The government can't run without the bulk of it's income coming from the middle. They aren't paying for all of this nonsense with a small tax increase on the wealthy. Add those top 3 tax brackets up. There's maybe what, 3 million people in the country that fall into those brackets? You're amazingly, absurdly naive if you think that's where all the money is coming from.
https://taxfoundation.org/how-many-taxpayers-fall-each-income-tax-bracket/
Ahh, yes, that's why the insurance industry railed hard against it and have scapegoated the ACA for their profit floors, and why conservative morons like you use their flight from the law's coverage as some symbol that the law is imminently doomed and that's why millions have to have their coverage revoked so that billionaires can get more money.
Dude, honestly, how naive are you? The insurance companies own almost everybody, on both sides of the isle. Senators, Congressmen, everybody up to and including Barack Obama. They were one of his biggest donors in 2008. Do you think after buying up everybody on both sides including the guy running the show they couldn't get something stopped that they didn't want to happen? That wasn't actually in their best interests? Wow. And read this again and think about it real slowly:
so that billionaires can get more money
No you don't. The ACA slowed price growth and instituted substantive floors on the services covered. There is literally zero way that your coverage could have gotten worse
Once again, this is a proof positive example that you don't have any idea what you're talking about. You don't have any real life experience either with Obamacare, or with the system prior to Obamacare. Prior to Obamacare, if I got sick, If I was injured, if anything whatsoever happened to me my yearly deductible was 200 dollars and any sort of service that I needed including specialists was completely covered if I went to a doctor that was in network. So I could have been hit by a train, started on fire, thrown from a bus and then run over and I was out 200 bucks. My premiums were very low, something like 10 bucks a month.
Today, for a similar plan, Best case scenario is 75-25 in network, with a co-pay in the office. That same plan is now 30 bucks a month. I have to pay more money up front, and I'd have to pay for a larger chunk of the bill in the event that something actually does happen to me because insurance won't cover it anymore. So the insurance company gets paid on both ends of the deal. Again, this is not something that is unique to me or my situation. This is now life for millions of Americans because of Obamacare. Now stick your fingers back over into your ears and mutter "nuh uh, nuh uh, nuh uh" over and over to yourself like a good little boy.
I don't care about your anecdote: everyone seems to have them
ROFL. Stop and think about how absurd of a statement that is for a second. If everybody is saying the same thing it isn't anecdotal anymore, you moron.
but can't refute the data showing the ACA slowed price growth and expanded coverage. If you want me to spam you with a fuck ton of article and studies proving this, none of which you will read, just say the word and I'll dump them on your illiterate lap.
It has been refuted. A bunch of times. You just choose to ignore it and read things that support what you think. Because you're clearly a closed minded, tribal thinker who thinks refusing to achknowldege facts is some sort of an argument, and that saying "nuh uh" to everything makes you right somehow.
https://ldi.upenn.edu/brief/effects-aca-health-care-cost-containment
My personal favorite section:
Why the dramatic slowdown from 2007-2013? Studies estimate that the 2007-2009 recession and the slow recovery from it explained somewhere between
37 percent and
70 percent of the slowdown. Others point to the spread of
high-deductible health plans (HDHPs), which incentivize price-conscious consumers to shop for care and avoid low value care. Just four percent of employers offered HDHPs in 2005; by 2011, nearly a third of employers offered such plans. A 2013
study suggested that less generous benefit design might have accounted for 20 percent of the slowdown. Slower adoption of expensive new medical technology and fewer new blockbuster drugs may have also been contributing factors.
Also, I could give two shits about your cunt of a wife. If she married you, I imagine that her healthcare premiums are the least of her problems.
Aww, look at the sad little rustled man who is getting rustled and sad because he can't actually make his sad little rustled points.
Look, an actual intelligent, objective person would see things like this (note I'm not the only one saying it) and think "gee, maybe I should re-evaluate my position as I am clearly not as well informed as I thought". Not you though, big shooter. You're just going to stick right with that "Mountains of objective information" schtick you're running with. That's commendable. I mean, it's not working, you aren't winning and you look silly, but way to stay loyal to an argument.
You do realize that NAFTA hasn't been renegotiated right? So, I can't give you the specific changes that I do not like.
Derp.
Translation - It hasn't been renegotiated, therefore no Liberal talking heads in the media have written any articles telling me what Trump screwed up, nor what positions I'm supposed to take to appear to be on the right side of things, therefore I cannot give you an opinion, as my opinions have not been published by other people yet.
Thanks bud, I had figured that already, that was sort of the reason behind asking in the first place.