If Chris gets handled another brutal loss, should he move up or call it quits?

Hendricks moved up and beat a small welter weight in Lombard who just happened to be fighting at 185. Let's see how he does against a real mw first .

Fair enough but he beat a talented fighter still after 3 losses. Counts for something but i agree he needs more of a test.
 
Guy was 13-0 in his MMA career before USADA severely messed up his weight cutting abilities. He looks like death at weight ins ( which is not something new, we have seen other fights look like that as well), and looks smaller in the octagon on fight night.

Now he is on a 3 fight losing streak (all more or less brutal losses), which again nothing new fighters have bounced back from similar records, but do you think he can?

I for one would like to see him move up if he loses, he is clearly done with the middleweight division if he looses to Weedstelum.

Weidman's career changed when he got caught looking for a finish in the fourth round vs Machida. Since that punch, he has not taken any strikes well. It's like he became a completely different fighter.

I can't think of another fighter that looks worse taking punches. As soon as he gets hit, he looks like he's ready to go.
 
I think he still has some good days ahead of him but something seriously has to change. I don't think a move up would better his chances, perhaps working on nutrition and cardio might be of some help.
 
Retire. He's made several million, and has taken a lot of brain trauma these last 3 fights. He's got a family to think about, he should not be putting his health at risk any longer if he has another brutal loss.
 
Lets be honest. Chris vs. Anderson 1 and 2 were very flukey. He will get picked apart by Kelvin (who really should be a 170er)

Chris is a basic, mid tier guy at 185

Lets be honest. Weidman beat the living shit out of Anderson both times.
 
He can take Wonderboy with him and go to Bellator. :)
 
Lets be honest. Weidman beat the living shit out of Anderson both times.

Obviously.
That leg kick check was beautiful. The outcome not so much.
People have to accept that Silva was out of his prime and Weidman (who is a decent, although not consistent or world-class fighter) was able to beat him twice with no problems whatsoever.

That doesn't change or diminish the legacy of Silva at all.
 
"I'm a fan" "all of his wins were fluke"
Beat Maia, smashed Munoz, knocked out Silva, took out machida and Belfort ... Must be terrible and should retire
 
He should fight as long as he fuckin feels like it.
 
Regardless he takes the belt back from Bisping & looking back in hindsight Bisping & Weidman will have controlled the 185 division for the better part of a decade.

You have a funny idea of what controlling a division looks like.
 
Lets be honest. Chris vs. Anderson 1 and 2 were very flukey. He will get picked apart by Kelvin (who really should be a 170er)

Chris is a basic, mid tier guy at 185
Let's be honest, Chris was clearly winning both fights before the "flukey" finishes.
 
Agreed. chris was done vs andy before the fluke. the second was a broken leg against scared andy. both flukey and now exposed. and im a fan.
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I think the beating Rockhold inflicted ruined him. Herb Dean should have stopped the fight way sooner. It was sickening to watch, and Weisman seems to be fucked.
 
Regardless he takes the belt back from Bisping & looking back in hindsight Bisping & Weidman will have controlled the 185 division for the better part of a decade.

Better part of a decade?
It hasn't even been 4 years since Weidman first won the belt.

They don't even have 4 years between the two of them.
 
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I think the beating Rockhold inflicted ruined him. Herb Dean should have stopped the fight way sooner. It was sickening to watch, and Weisman seems to be fucked.
Still amazed the fight wasn't stopped. I think like Rogan said, what does it take to stop a fight?
 
He should think about his long term health and call it quits. He's smart enough to make a living in a more cerebral line of work, but that's if he gets out now.
 
Glad to know you have it all figured out.

Two wins over Anderson Silva back to back, while he was on top are NOT a fluke. Anderson played around doing those antics for years, while many were hypnotized by it and payed the price..... Wiedman countered, took advantage and dropped the Champ. That is NOT a FLUKE!! The second time was a perfectly times checked kick. It did what it's supposed to do. Hurt your opponent more than you ( when done correctly), even break their leg. Not the first time a checked kick has stopped a fight via leg breakage. Also not an easy thing to do properly. Guess the entire training camp of Chris practising checking kicks over and over had nothing to do with his fluke victory?

As far as calling Wiedman a mid level fighter. What a joke. Undefeated to become Champ. Loses to Rockhold, an excellent fighter himself. Then Chris was winning the fight against Yoel, who is a beast!!! Before he got caught. Now Yoel is fighting for the interm belt but should be fighting for the real belt but the current Champion is running away from him. As far as the last fight ,there has been some controversy over that one... but let's face it any fighter after losing the title then getting viciously KO'd in his next fight should be given a lower ranked fighter. Somewhere around top 10. The mental game is important and fighting any top 5 guys after a couple of losses is too much for anyone.

The top five guys at MW right now are killers any one on any day can win the belt. To say Wiedman is Mid Tier just shows you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Put him against any mid Tier MW, he destroys them.

Fluke.
 
Glad to know you have it all figured out.

Two wins over Anderson Silva back to back, while he was on top are NOT a fluke. Anderson played around doing those antics for years, while many were hypnotized by it and payed the price..... Wiedman countered, took advantage and dropped the Champ. That is NOT a FLUKE!! The second time was a perfectly times checked kick. It did what it's supposed to do. Hurt your opponent more than you ( when done correctly), even break their leg. Not the first time a checked kick has stopped a fight via leg breakage. Also not an easy thing to do properly. Guess the entire training camp of Chris practising checking kicks over and over had nothing to do with his fluke victory?

As far as calling Wiedman a mid level fighter. What a joke. Undefeated to become Champ. Loses to Rockhold, an excellent fighter himself. Then Chris was winning the fight against Yoel, who is a beast!!! Before he got caught. Now Yoel is fighting for the interm belt but should be fighting for the real belt but the current Champion is running away from him. As far as the last fight ,there has been some controversy over that one... but let's face it any fighter after losing the title then getting viciously KO'd in his next fight should be given a lower ranked fighter. Somewhere around top 10. The mental game is important and fighting any top 5 guys after a couple of losses is too much for anyone.

The top five guys at MW right now are killers any one on any day can win the belt. To say Wiedman is Mid Tier just shows you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Put him against any mid Tier MW, he destroys them.
First anderson fight wasn't a fluke, it was because Anderson was retarded if he had not clowned he wouldn't have been KO'd he was playing with Weidman up to that point.

2nd fight was a fluke, while Weidman checked the kick perfectly showing skill and timing leg breaks are extremely rare. legs are broken less than 1% of the time when a kick is checked, see muay thai and kickboxing matches where dozens of kicks are checked.

Weidman really isn't a top 5 fighter Kevin Gastelum destroys him as would robert whittaker, he's a high tier fighter but he isn't at the top.
 
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