I want to understand heroin addiction..

[DoomPatrol]

Any heroin addicts or former heroin addicts here? How strong is the pull to do heroin? Is it the same pull as for instance wanting to masturbate? Cause i can't go more than 2-3 days without it tops. Is that how heroin addiction feels like?

Opiates are a crazy destructive drug. It's incredible how hard the drug can latch on to people. I know for a fact that I have a problem with opiates. I got prescribed them from military injuries, and I felt myself getting sucked into a hole needing them.

I think this is the biggest health crisis in America right now. I wish the government would sponsor Suboxone clinics that provide free medicine to users so they can get off. Suboxone is literally the only way hardcore addicts can get off opiates without severe sickness.

My personal experience led me to accept that I can't trust myself with opiate medicine. If I have it around, I have compulsive behavior that gets me to use them. There's just nothing better on this planet than the relief opiates provide. The calm that opiates give is literally better than sex. It's not like I get injured much, but if I am ever forced to take the medicine I give the bottle over to my lady and let her regulate it.

Crazy stuff. I've lost 3 friends in my lifetime to opiates. One at like 15 to an OC 80. One to heroin in his 20s, and one to fentanyl tainted heroin in his 30s. They need to give people some help. This is literally destroying our nation.

 

[DamasR]

Opiates are a crazy destructive drug. It's incredible how hard the drug can latch on to people. I know for a fact that I have a problem with opiates. I got prescribed them from military injuries, and I felt myself getting sucked into a hole needing them.

I think this is the biggest health crisis in America right now. I wish the government would sponsor Suboxone clinics that provide free medicine to users so they can get off. Suboxone is literally the only way hardcore addicts can get off opiates without severe sickness.

My personal experience led me to accept that I can't trust myself with opiate medicine. If I have it around, I have compulsive behavior that gets me to use them. There's just nothing better on this planet than the relief opiates provide. The calm that opiates give is literally better than sex. It's not like I get injured much, but if I am ever forced to take the medicine I give the bottle over to my lady and let her regulate it.

Crazy stuff. I've lost 3 friends in my lifetime to opiates. One at like 15 to an OC 80. One to heroin in his 20s, and one to fentanyl tainted heroin in his 30s. They need to give people some help. This is literally destroying our nation.

would you compare the "urge" of doing heroin/opiates to the urge of masturbating? Cause i can't stop masturbating. i can hold it off for a few days tops but im constantly horny.

 

[DoomPatrol]

would you compare the "urge" of doing heroin/opiates to the urge of masturbating? Cause i can't stop masturbating. i can hold it off for a few days tops but im constantly horny.

Maybe on a mental level, but the real issue with opiate addiction is the physical issues. These poor people get ridiculously sick when they don't use. It's not just like a runny nose and fever, I mean violently ill.

I've actually detoxed a fellow Marine veteran in my house one weekend. He was seriously addicted to heroin and lost everything, and I met him at the local VA Hospital. We got to talking and I pried it out of him that he was using and needed help. So I basically talked him to come to my home for a few days to give him a safe place to detox heroin out of his system and get him started towards sobriety and a new start. By like day 2 he was like literally shitting himself and had the chills like it was subzero in the house. But he eventually got it out of his system enough to go back to his life and I helped him get into a NA meeting. Last I checked he was still doing good.

But it seems like they are more afraid of getting sick than anything after a point. I've never experienced anything that bad, but I did feel pretty crummy for a few days when I got off painkillers.

 

[Satsui Ryu]

Never did heroin, but popped oxys a few times recreationally. The scary thing about opiates is that unlike a lot of other drugs where the come down is not pleasant at all, with opiates at best you don't really feel anything coming down (initially) and at worst you want to redose ASAP. It seems easy to get hooked because there doesn't seem to be any barriers to doing it again quickly.

 

[tru3f4n]

That's good!! I wouldn't do that either. I wonder what's worse - heroin vs meth

heroin I've seen tweakers who were functionable everyone I've ever seen on heroin all they do is just try to get more heroin and do nothing but nod out.

 

[Final Rehab]

would you compare the "urge" of doing heroin/opiates to the urge of masturbating? Cause i can't stop masturbating. i can hold it off for a few days tops but im constantly horny.

Dude if you want to start a thread about your compulsive masturbating then do that. Shit has fuck-all to do with heroin addiction.

So, when you pleasure yourself, do you use lube, watch porn, etc., or do you go dry and fantasize? Do you have sex with partners, or is it strictly solo? So many questions. Let's get to the heart of the matter ace.

 

[ralphc1]

thanks, but honestly only the first few years were a "struggle". It got easy when I replaced it with lifting and muay thai. Got obsessive about adding pounds to my lifts and that became a new addiction to revolve my life around.

Thats the most important thing for anyone who wants to quit- you need to fill that gap with something as time consuming and obsessive to structure your life.

I've always been interested to know why people start using things that they become addicted to. I remember when my friends started smoking. They were coughing and choking and I saw no point in doing that.

Even drinking alcohol. I didn't often drink to excess. The few occasions that I did made me avoid doing it again. I suspect that there is something in brain chemistry that makes it more pleasurable for some people.

 

[koolinkunming]

Any heroin addicts or former heroin addicts here? How strong is the pull to do heroin? Is it the same pull as for instance wanting to masturbate? Cause i can't go more than 2-3 days without it tops. Is that how heroin addiction feels like?

Try it

 

[DamasR]

Dude if you want to start a thread about your compulsive masturbating then do that. Shit has fuck-all to do with heroin addiction.

So, when you pleasure yourself, do you use lube, watch porn, etc., or do you go dry and fantasize? Do you have sex with partners, or is it strictly solo? So many questions. Let's get to the heart of the matter ace.

i have never done heroin, or drugs and im trying to understand it. the only thing i have to compare it with is masturbation.

 

[aus101]

thanks, but honestly only the first few years were a "struggle". It got easy when I replaced it with lifting and muay thai. Got obsessive about adding pounds to my lifts and that became a new addiction to revolve my life around.

Thats the most important thing for anyone who wants to quit- you need to fill that gap with something as time consuming and obsessive to structure your life.

Yeah good point, to continue to progress (or even just tread water) lifting heavy requires structure, planning and commitment. The heavier it gets the more dialed in you need to be in your training and diet, yet as long as you are doing it properly (good form, no peds) then it's one of the healthiest obsessions you can have.

 

[Final Rehab]

i have never done heroin, or drugs and im trying to understand it. the only thing i have to compare it with is masturbation.

I'm just giving you a hard time but your chief concern here seems to be why you can't keep from flogging the dolphin for more than a day or so. Let's quit deflecting and concentrate on that.

 

[DamasR]

I'm just giving you a hard time but your chief concern here seems to be why you can't keep from flogging the dolphin for more than a day or so. Let's quit deflecting and concentrate on that.

well while we're at it...is it strange not being able to refrain from doing it at least once a day?

 

[weed]

 

[Final Rehab]

well while we're at it...is it strange not being able to refrain from doing it at least once a day?

I'll never look down on anyone for beating the bishop regularly. Gotta keep the pipes clear.

It's never kept me from having a satisfying sexual relationship with a woman.

It's not you're fault that you have a sex drive like a spider monkey. You'll be fine. Spank away.

 

[Protectandserve]

We had a dude who basically had gangerenous legs and was still shooting up in them. That's how strong the addiction is. Dude had open sores and lessions so bad his pant legs and socks were basically adhered to his skin. He was like 25 years old too.

I fucking hate dealing with dope and dopers.

 

[IloveTHIS]

comparing masturbation/orgasms to heroin lmao.


An addict would rather go a year with out an orgasm vs 1 day with out a fix.

 

[mb23100]

I shared a jail cell with a guy coming down off heroin and ive never seen someone look more miserable in my life. And those were the early stages of withdrawal. Never touch that shit

 

[Trotsky]

Any heroin addicts or former heroin addicts here? How strong is the pull to do heroin? Is it the same pull as for instance wanting to masturbate? Cause i can't go more than 2-3 days without it tops. Is that how heroin addiction feels like?

No, it's not similar.

You can get really busy with work, school, or recreation and not masturbate. All that happens is that you blow a bigger load.

You cannot "forget" or put off your heroin addiction. Your body won't let you. Any activity that you are doing instead of doing heroin will be interrupted by violent sickness.

Don't do heroin. I literally am fine with you doing any other addictive drug, as most of them are vastly over-stigmatized. For instance, meth isn't nearly as addictive, destructive, or dangerous as the media may portray. Heroin, however, is. It's poison and if you become addicted to it, there's a good chance you will die from it.

 

[jefferz]

I think with anything replacing the habit with another one goes a long way. I originally quit smoking by doing martial arts, although I haven’t done martial arts in two years now and I still have a couple of smokes every now and then, and I picked up guitar to lessen my drinking, so now instead of drinking every night I’m a lousy guitar player who drinks maybe twice a week.

You're never going to be a famous jazz musician with that attitude.

 

[nefti]

consider yourself lucky. Some react with unpleasant nausea while others get a warm euphoria that makes them feel like they're returning to the womb.

My friend described it as being in a warm blanket in a freezing day, times a million