I don't want to be the weight police, but . . .

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  1. mma_genius

    mma_genius Brown Belt

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    I don't think anyone should tell a fighter who has never missed weight what weight class to fight at. However, it seems that missing weight is a bit more common than it used to be. I have some suggestions to curb this. I think the best way is to hit them in the wallet.

    I'm not an expert on hydration tests, but I feel that tests like this measure things that have different effects on different people. If you can walk up to the stage, act normal, and weigh-in, that is enough for me.

    1) If you miss weight, you are suspended for a year for the first offense. 2nd offense is 2 year ban. 3rd offense is lifetime ban. No excuses.

    2) Any fighter who misses weight does not get to fight and does not get paid anything. No exceptions.

    3) Keep the day before fight weigh-ins, but also add a 2 days before fight weigh-in. If you're not within 5% of your weight class two days before the fight, you have to pay opponent half of your purse. No excuses.

    4) Once you return from suspension, whatever your contract stipulates your pay would be after a fight (win or lose), you lose half of it as a fine. This could offset what I'm proposing in #4.

    5) Pay people who make weight their show money no matter what. Pay people who make weight (and opponent does not) their show and win money if their win + show money is < $100K. Pay them $100K if their win + show money > 100K. The UFC and other orgs won't like this one, but having a camp is expensive and its not really fair to the guy who made weight when the fight is cancelled.

    What do you think?
     
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    ThatGuy7698 Chael Sonnen Bless

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    So you wanna punish fighters who miss weight worse than fighters who use steroids and PEDs?




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  3. ManjesterUnited

    ManjesterUnited White Belt

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    Then it is not a Fighting promotion, just a diet competition.
     
  4. MMAProfessional

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    What a dumb idea. Let's make another reason for fighters to be out...I'll pass. Also make juicing legal again
     
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    Bubzeh Pink Belt

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    Sounds like something the North Koreans would implement.
     
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    Sherdog logic.
     
  7. Nigol

    Nigol Green Belt

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    Sure ts. Fighters that miss weight should also be deported to North Korea. Even if it's just a half pound.
     
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    ThatGuy7698 Chael Sonnen Bless

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    This is dumb even by Sherdog standards.

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  9. mma_genius

    mma_genius Brown Belt

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    No - this is about making weight. I'd punish the drug cheaters even more.
     
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    mma_genius Brown Belt

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    For 100 years its always been about what is the lowest weight you can make.

    I'm trying to make sure fighters make weight or get forced to fight at a weight class they can comfortably make.
     
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    Al Gorithm Black Belt

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    Any examples of 1st offenses at your current job that would get you shelved without pay for a year ?
     
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    ThatGuy7698 Chael Sonnen Bless

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    Well everyone on here unanimously agrees your idea is dumb, and your idea would punish guys who miss weight worse than guys who take steroids. Nice try, but no.
     
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    mma_genius Brown Belt

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    If I violate terms of a contract I'd just get fired forever from my company.
     
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    I'm afraid this would only make more fighters die due to excessive weight cutting.
     
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    mma_genius Brown Belt

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    Repeat - this is about making weight, and has nothing to do with steroids. I have opinions on them too, but they have nothing to do with this.
     
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    I say if you miss weight twice in a row you lose the privilege of fighting in that weight class.
     
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    Johnny2fists weak Platinum Member

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    Why spare their families? Shouldn’t they be flogged with the 1st offense, fingers cut off after the second offense and then executed thereafter?
     
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    I think the 3rd time a fighter misses weight they be pulled and fined.

    If they move up in weight and miss again, 6-12 month suspension.

    Or have their hydration levels closely monitored after their first missed attempt.
     
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    Lol @ weight. Fedor was 230 lbs destroyinig 260+ lbs monsters, now modern MMA fans think that a fighter being 5 lbs heavier makes it a mismatch lmao.
     
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