I Don't Understand/You Don't Understand: Tim Kennedy

[LordFarthing]

For People who think Tim was being ridiculous in his post where he admitted to killing women and children:

Being a modern soldier means dealing with urban conflicts where civilians are involved. On the Jocko Podcast, Tim talked about throwing a grenade into a room where an enemy(who was killing americans) was located. He threw the grenade, then heard women and children scream. He killed them (or eluded) to it. It wasn't a scenario where he knowingly killed women and children, it was an accident. Some things are not aviodable, and if you think they are, please enlist and kill ISIS by yourself without suffering a single civilian casualty.

For people equating this to Tim shooting women and children on purpose simply to kill them, shame on you. You and I both have no idea what its like to be a modern soldier, and especially a spec ops soldier. Tim is both, and has been put in incredibly tough situations where he has to make split second decisions that can have terrible consequences.

I praise Tim for his honesty. Tim is my hero, as are all great men who put themselves in harms way for their brothers/to serve freedom/to help foreign civilians live safely. Our government makes bad decisions, yes, but don't blame the soldiers for that. If you're posting on the internet like, you're likely scum, a weak human (like me, sadly to say) and being a modern soldier is far more difficult than anything we'll do in our lifetime.

However, I understand this, and thank Tim for his service. Thank you to all military personnel, especially combat veterans.

 

[Arm Barbarian]

TS, to his Whineddy screensaver

 

[LordFarthing]

TS, to his Whineddy screensaver

Do you have anything to add to the conversation? I was simply commentating on his admission of killing women and children, and how nuance is important.

 

[Codpiece]

Tim's a good guy. He wasn't acting proud to have killed women and children.

 

[PhantomBlade]

This is the site where people cry about hunting for food while eating a cheeseburger.
Don't expect much

 

[trident]

Do you have anything to add to the conversation? I was simply commentating on his admission of killing women and children, and how nuance is important.

It's a given nuance is important when you kill women and children.

 

[LordFarthing]

It's a given nuance is important when you kill women and children.

Yes, it is. There's a difference between throwing a grenade into a room to kill an enemy when there's no intel that there's anyone else in the room, and knowingly shooting a kid in the face.

 

[fearoth]

 

[killerkalibur]

Your right to a certain extent but my issue is not the action but the reason he is saying it. To me, it seems as if he is saying what he says more to stay relevant and in the mouth of people than to actually help people or bring an issue to the forefront. This is the same guy who stared in a show where they went to hunt for Hitler. He whines and cries after every loss.

 

[Chivas GDL]

I didn't read that shit.

 

[Air Lats]

For People who think Tim was being ridiculous in his post where he admitted to killing women and children:

Being a modern soldier means dealing with urban conflicts where civilians are involved. On the Jocko Podcast, Tim talked about throwing a grenade into a room where an enemy(who was killing americans) was located. He threw the grenade, then heard women and children scream. He killed them (or eluded) to it. It wasn't a scenario where he knowingly killed women and children, it was an accident. Some things are not aviodable, and if you think they are, please enlist and kill ISIS by yourself without suffering a single civilian casualty.

For people equating this to Tim shooting women and children on purpose simply to kill them, shame on you. You and I both have no idea what its like to be a modern soldier, and especially a spec ops soldier. Tim is both, and has been put in incredibly tough situations where he has to make split second decisions that can have terrible consequences.

I praise Tim for his honesty. Tim is my hero, as are all great men who put themselves in harms way for their brothers/to serve freedom/to help foreign civilians live safely. Our government makes bad decisions, yes, but don't blame the soldiers for that. If you're posting on the internet like, you're likely scum, a weak human (like me, sadly to say) and being a modern soldier is far more difficult than anything we'll do in our lifetime.

However, I understand this, and thank Tim for his service. Thank you to all military personnel, especially combat veterans.

I think Tim is a very courageous and hardworking tool. I respect him but, without knowing them 1st hand, I can say that I could not follow orders the way he can. I just don't trust 'authority' enough.

Great fighter, dedicated serviceman who is genuinely concerned with his fellows.

Nobody's perfect but I like Tim.

 

[LordFarthing]

I think Tim is a very courageous and hardworking tool. I respect him but, without knowing them 1st hand, I can say that I could not follow orders the way he can. I just don't trust 'authority' enough.

Great fighter, dedicated serviceman who is genuinely concerned with his fellows.

Nobody's perfect but I like Tim.

At least you're using critical thinking skills. The main point of this thread is nuance; don't read a sentence and conflate it into what you think it meant. Thank you for not doing so.

 

[UltraMagnusReturns]

For People who think Tim was being ridiculous in his post where he admitted to killing women and children:

Being a modern soldier means dealing with urban conflicts where civilians are involved. On the Jocko Podcast, Tim talked about throwing a grenade into a room where an enemy(who was killing americans) was located. He threw the grenade, then heard women and children scream. He killed them (or eluded) to it. It wasn't a scenario where he knowingly killed women and children, it was an accident. Some things are not aviodable, and if you think they are, please enlist and kill ISIS by yourself without suffering a single civilian casualty.

For people equating this to Tim shooting women and children on purpose simply to kill them, shame on you. You and I both have no idea what its like to be a modern soldier, and especially a spec ops soldier. Tim is both, and has been put in incredibly tough situations where he has to make split second decisions that can have terrible consequences.

I praise Tim for his honesty. Tim is my hero, as are all great men who put themselves in harms way for their brothers/to serve freedom/to help foreign civilians live safely. Our government makes bad decisions, yes, but don't blame the soldiers for that. If you're posting on the internet like, you're likely scum, a weak human (like me, sadly to say) and being a modern soldier is far more difficult than anything we'll do in our lifetime.

However, I understand this, and thank Tim for his service. Thank you to all military personnel, especially combat veterans.

You actually said Tim is your Hero. Therefore I automatically disregarded everything else you said.

 

[Darbo]

I would never knock him for his actions in war because how could i? I will however freely knock him for his bullshit outside of a warzone, he is a dick, a dick that served his country well as far as i can gather, but a dick all the same.

 

[CFGroup]

The guy's a tool for dissing those back suffering from PTSD and the 20 taking their own lives a day. War is hell and those who return with those normal human memory scars need the rest to give them the respect and help they effing earned!

Plus those ammo sexual clips of him "shooting" with his shirt off r way out creepy!

 

[RetiredSlave]

There is glory in saving life not taking it. The human mind still clinging to tribe warfare mentality. Primitive and savage. Will we ever evolve past kill or be killed? Who knows, who cares? Cest la vie.

 

[Ether13]

Tim Kennedy doesn't understand / No one gives a fuck about - Tim Kennedy

 

[Alphafail]

Thank you for murdering those children, Tim. I feel much safer now.

 

[jeremyemilio]

For People who think Tim was being ridiculous in his post where he admitted to killing women and children:

Being a modern soldier means dealing with urban conflicts where civilians are involved. On the Jocko Podcast, Tim talked about throwing a grenade into a room where an enemy(who was killing americans) was located. He threw the grenade, then heard women and children scream. He killed them (or eluded) to it. It wasn't a scenario where he knowingly killed women and children, it was an accident. Some things are not aviodable, and if you think they are, please enlist and kill ISIS by yourself without suffering a single civilian casualty.

For people equating this to Tim shooting women and children on purpose simply to kill them, shame on you. You and I both have no idea what its like to be a modern soldier, and especially a spec ops soldier. Tim is both, and has been put in incredibly tough situations where he has to make split second decisions that can have terrible consequences.

I praise Tim for his honesty. Tim is my hero, as are all great men who put themselves in harms way for their brothers/to serve freedom/to help foreign civilians live safely. Our government makes bad decisions, yes, but don't blame the soldiers for that. If you're posting on the internet like, you're likely scum, a weak human (like me, sadly to say) and being a modern soldier is far more difficult than anything we'll do in our lifetime.

However, I understand this, and thank Tim for his service. Thank you to all military personnel, especially combat veterans.

I agree with most of what you say (except for the "modern" soldier bit; storming the beaches of Normandy was a MUCH worse gig than being a "modern" soldier).

In any case, I don't fault a man for throwing a grenade into a room from which he and his fellow soldiers are taking enemy fire.

(Of course, that reasoning wasn't enough to keep a 15 year old child soldier Omar Khadr out of Guantanamo for committing the "war crime" of throwing a grenade at the enemy in the middle of a firefight, but that's a whole other conversation.)

All that aside, though, Kennedy is still an asshole. Just happens none of that has anything to do with his service.

 

[LordFarthing]

I agree with most of what you say (except for the "modern" soldier bit; storming the beaches of Normandy was a MUCH worse gig than being a "modern" soldier).

Yes, you're right here. Let me clarify about the "modern soldier". I'm talking about urban warfare, and civilian casualties. With that being said, WWII had many civilian casualties as well. And lets not forgot the horrors of WWI, Korea, Vietnam, the South American Countries of the '70's, and so on.