HW top 10 (2005) vs HW top 10 (2017)?

Katsumi Yamada

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2017 April:
1. Stipe Miocic (34)
2. Fabricio Werdum (39)
3. Alistair Overeem (36)
4. Cain Velasquez (34)
5. Junior Dos Santos (33)
6. Josh Barnett (39)
7. Mark Hunt (43)
8. Derrick Lewis (32)
9. Ben Rothwell (35)
10. Francis Ngganou (30)

2005 April:
1. Fedor Emelianenko (28)
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (28)
3. Mark Hunt (31)
4. Mirko Filipovic (30)
5. Andrei Arlovski (25)
6. Frank Mir (24)
7. Josh Barnett (27)
8. Tim Sylvia (29)
9. Lyoto Machida (26)
10. Sergei Kharitonov (24)

Which list of fighters is superior (considering them as they were at the time)?
Has the sport progressed at all in the heavyweight division??

What do you think?




(Rankings from fight matrix, if someone can dig out the sherdog rankings from that time we can do another comparison).
 
All I know is. I believe Stipe would beat that entire top 10.
 
You want a 10 v 10 breakdown ????

In a street fight I take the new breed easily.
 
Katsumi Yamada said:
2017 April:
1. Stipe Miocic (34)
2. Fabricio Werdum (39)
3. Alistair Overeem (36)
4. Cain Velasquez (34)
5. Junior Dos Santos (33)
6. Josh Barnett (39)
7. Mark Hunt (43)
8. Derrick Lewis (32)
9. Ben Rothwell (35)
10. Francis Ngganou (30)

2005 April:
1. Fedor Emelianenko (28)
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (28)
3. Mark Hunt (31)
4. Mirko Filipovic (30)
5. Andrei Arlovski (25)
6. Frank Mir (24)
7. Josh Barnett (27)
8. Tim Sylvia (29)
9. Lyoto Machida (26)
10. Sergei Kharitonov (24)

Which list of fighters is superior (considering them as they were at the time)?
Has the sport progressed at all in the heavyweight division??

What do you think?




(Rankings from fight matrix, if someone can dig out the sherdog rankings from that time we can do another comparison).
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2005 because Fedor is the goat.
 
More variety and less old guys in 2005.

There are some MONSTERS at the top of HW 2017 though.

2005 wins for consistency
 
A bunch of names cross over into the new division which shows it hasn't progressed much. Afew new faces as the older guys age.

I dont really think the best guys in 06 would lose to the best guys today in most divisions.

One dominant skill still wins fights, and the individual components of MMA have existed forever.

We still have guys with a career background in wrestling or one striking discipline learning the other components and dominating after 5 or so years of MMA training.

This was the case in 05 and it's still the case in 17'.
 
Katsumi Yamada said:
2017 April:
1. Stipe Miocic (34)
2. Fabricio Werdum (39)
3. Alistair Overeem (36)
4. Cain Velasquez (34)
5. Junior Dos Santos (33)
6. Josh Barnett (39)
7. Mark Hunt (43)
8. Derrick Lewis (32)
9. Ben Rothwell (35)
10. Francis Ngganou (30)

2005 April:
1. Fedor Emelianenko (28)
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (28)
3. Mark Hunt (31)
4. Mirko Filipovic (30)
5. Andrei Arlovski (25)
6. Frank Mir (24)
7. Josh Barnett (27)
8. Tim Sylvia (29)
9. Lyoto Machida (26)
10. Sergei Kharitonov (24)

Which list of fighters is superior (considering them as they were at the time)?
Has the sport progressed at all in the heavyweight division??

What do you think?




(Rankings from fight matrix, if someone can dig out the sherdog rankings from that time we can do another comparison).
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I would put Herring instead of Sylvia or Machida

heck... I would even put Fujita instead of Machida or Sylvia
 
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More skill, more youth, and more toughness in 2005.
 
2005 list put on classic fights on a regular basis. That's why they are superior.
 
bambammccoy said:
More variety and less old guys in 2005.

There are some MONSTERS at the top of HW 2017 though.

2005 wins for consistency
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less ol´guys? The UFC HW div has gone completly B-Hop.
 
StraightleftKO said:
Lmao he almost lost to Overeem.
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How the hell do you figure he almost lost to Overeem if he KOed him in the FIRST round. You must be an angry Fedor fanboy due to my statement. So your stupid came out
 
Katsumi Yamada said:
2017 April:
1. Stipe Miocic (34)
2. Fabricio Werdum (39)
3. Alistair Overeem (36)
4. Cain Velasquez (34)
5. Junior Dos Santos (33)
6. Josh Barnett (39)
7. Mark Hunt (43)
8. Derrick Lewis (32)
9. Ben Rothwell (35)
10. Francis Ngganou (30)

2005 April:
1. Fedor Emelianenko (28)
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (28)
3. Mark Hunt (31)
4. Mirko Filipovic (30)
5. Andrei Arlovski (25)
6. Frank Mir (24)
7. Josh Barnett (27)
8. Tim Sylvia (29)
9. Lyoto Machida (26)
10. Sergei Kharitonov (24)

Which list of fighters is superior (considering them as they were at the time)?
Has the sport progressed at all in the heavyweight division??

What do you think?




(Rankings from fight matrix, if someone can dig out the sherdog rankings from that time we can do another comparison).
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Sea-level is not made for Tournaments... We can all agree on this.
 
The average age diff is crazy

Today's is all old dudes...not the same dudes but older, but just some new old dudes
 
dickcheney said:
The average age diff is crazy

Today's is all old dudes...not the same dudes but older, but just some new old dudes
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Top5 UFC HW div:

1. Stipe Miocic 34
2. Fabricio Werdum 39
3. Cain Velasquez 33
4. Alistair Overeem 36
5. Junior dos Santos 33

Avg Age = 35.2

Top5 PRIDE HW div:

Fedor 27
Big Nog 27
Crocop 29
Barnett 26
Hunt 29

Random year :2003
Avg Age= 27,6
 
Now look at the pride MW GP compared to today's LHW division. 5-10 especially is pretty rough.
 
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