How would you defend Chael Sonnen double leg?

[JustOnce]

Now, when you are wrestling, you have to get past the heads and arms to get to the legs, but in MMA, really lot of times, Chael Sonnen hits his double legs without having to fight through the head and arms due to the stance and exchange of blows, and he often can get on your legs pretty quickly.

In amatuer wrestling at a higher level, when someone gets on his opponents two legs, not just one, two legs, most of times a guy would be finishing it, though I suppose you don't really see a whole lot of double legs in amatuer wrestling, it's more single leg oriented.

On contrary, you don't really seem to see a whole lot of single leg compared to double legs, though you do see it, but in comparison to double legs, not as much.

So, when someone like Chael Sonnen gets on your legs, a guy who puts pressure on you and cuts off the cage, and let's say in a grappling scenario as well not purely MMA,

what would you try to do?

 

[jack36767]

Whizzered as hard as I can.. and pray

Edit: spellcheck

 

[rmongler]

In striking sports, a choice between taking a more square stance vs a more bladed stance is often more or less a question of trade-offs and preference; boxers more usually take more bladed stances since this enhances ability to move forward and backwards quickly, while kickboxers and muay thai fighters more usually stand more square, as this facilitates the most especially useful ability to block kicks by raising the knee.

In MMA, however, there are more multiple dynamics interplaying with each other which can weigh into a choice. Like in muay thai kicking is also a factor in MMA striking. However, you never the less see many fighters in MMA take heavily bladed stances. Why? Not necessarily because of striking in neutral, but because of takedowns in neutral. Standing highly bladed feeds people who shoots in on you into the single leg, which, generally speaking, is significantly more feasible to defend or escape or counter than someone who's already in on both hips. And people then tune their striking games around taking such starting frames as a given.

 

[TheGZA]

No can defense.

 

[leaf22]

6 months sprawl training

 

[NAKMUAY18]

No can defense.

TheGZA is making $25 million. He can’t stop the double leg. I had to go to school for that shit

 

[tekkenfan]

6 months sprawl training

damn of only wandy anderson bisping and the others have done this

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Poorly

 

[ArtemV]

I guess to drop my hands completely and try for underhooks.

 

[DoctorTaco]

A triangle

 

[tekkenfan]

tbh bets would be to try to hit a head arm guillotine while fighting to push his hands through to jump to a triangle if you feel its not tight enough some guys are just to good and fighting the takedowns just gonna ags you and hes gonna get you down best bet is to take advantage of the space and scramble during the double

 

[chubbman]

I would just side step.

 

[TheGZA]

 

[MadSquabbles500]

In striking sports, a choice between taking a more square stance vs a more bladed stance is often more or less a question of trade-offs and preference; boxers more usually take more bladed stances since this enhances ability to move forward and backwards quickly, while kickboxers and muay thai fighters more usually stand more square, as this facilitates the most especially useful ability to block kicks by raising the knee.

In MMA, however, there are more multiple dynamics interplaying with each other which can weigh into a choice. Like in muay thai kicking is also a factor in MMA striking. However, you never the less see many fighters in MMA take heavily bladed stances. Why? Not necessarily because of striking in neutral, but because of takedowns in neutral. Standing highly bladed feeds people who shoots in on you into the single leg, which, generally speaking, is significantly more feasible to defend or escape or counter than someone who's already in on both hips. And people then tune their striking games around taking such starting frames as a given.

But can you defend low kicks in a bladed stance?

 

[rmongler]

But can you defend low kicks in a bladed stance?

You can defend them... by hitting them first.

If you are strong in the clinch, you can use a more square stance to protect yourself and more kick heavy game to attack. People who's games center around avoiding grappling exchanges though, more or less just accept the trade-off(s) and bank on trying to cover any holes so incurred with better striking in other ways.

Just to note, someone having a strong takedown doesn't necessarily mean they're strong in the clinch. This is usually a foible of fighters who tend to shoot in on the legs a lot, like Jon Fitch (or Demian Maia).

 

[Uchi Mata]

You're not going to stop the shot if he gets a good angle on you. The key to stopping shots at distance in MMA is to be like Jose Aldo: get really good at using footwork to deny wrestlers the angle they need for a clean shot (basically, don't let them square up your hips), and always be ready to frame away on the shoulders when the shot comes. Watch how Aldo just flings Edgar off of him whenever Frankie shoots in their fights. He's able to do that because Frankie never gets a good angle to get in on his hips, he always has to settle for a leg and Aldo is framing away and limp legging as soon as Edgar changes levels. At the time Chael was in his prime there weren't any good anti-wrestling strikers in the MW division, so he basically took everyone down at will.

 

[Normot]

I would sprawl,whizzer, try and scramble and get absolutely nowhere.

 

[JustOnce]

You're not going to stop the shot if he gets a good angle on you. The key to stopping shots at distance in MMA is to be like Jose Aldo: get really good at using footwork to deny wrestlers the angle they need for a clean shot (basically, don't let them square up your hips), and always be ready to frame away on the shoulders when the shot comes. Watch how Aldo just flings Edgar off of him whenever Frankie shoots in their fights. He's able to do that because Frankie never gets a good angle to get in on his hips, he always has to settle for a leg and Aldo is framing away and limp legging as soon as Edgar changes levels. At the time Chael was in his prime there weren't any good anti-wrestling strikers in the MW division, so he basically took everyone down at will.

Well there werent really good wreslters period.

Maia put balls on his face really quick

Scrub became a legend :/.

But thing is some guys still somehow fend them off when they are in deep on their heeps

 

[Zankou]

I am a big believer in feeding the single from a bladed stance. Single is just not that hard to defend if you block shoulders/head/wrist. Double leg, you are completely fucked. It’s like a body lock or giving up the back, you just can’t allow it to happen at any cost.

 

[Idonotbelieveit]

Would love to hear Coleman answer