How would a superHW division look?

If anyone wanted to do a SHW division, they should do it as its own org.

Having a bunch of deaths would be bad for any companies brand.
 
Sakuraba7 said:
But who makes the rest of the top 15 in both divisions? That's the problem in breaking it in half, it thins out the divisions.
Click to expand...


Naw i could easily make it just dont have the time to comb out the hole ufc hw roster and sort them by weight then rank..but this was just an example of the top 15 currently
 
Paolo Delutis said:
Over 265lbs is just an invitation for fattys and low cardio fights, i thinm a better divisional gap should be this

206 to 245 heavyweight

246 to 280 superheavyweight

This makes much more sense and less liabilty for promotors for medical clearances and heart attacks mid fight. Ive thought for years the gap in hw divison of mma has hindering its growth as many 205ers are to worried about potentially facing a carwin/hunt or overeem/lesnar type they dont move up but the divison i put would allow easier transitions more fighters.


Just my two cents T.S
Click to expand...

Lol at being concerned with legal liability, but absolutely zero fucks given about the ethical implications of letting guys that big compete in an endurance sport and paying them for it.

You even recognize the extreme increase in heart attack risk.

If you have ever played a D&D game (videogame or live), this is a textbook 'Lawful Evil' thinking process....i love it.
 
If there was a super heavyweight division I would want the rounds to only be 3 minutes long.
 
giusti825 said:
If anyone wanted to do a SHW division, they should do it as its own org.

Having a bunch of deaths would be bad for any companies brand.
Click to expand...
Plenty of fighters have fought at heavier than 265 pounds and to my knowledge none of them died (feel free to correct me I love to learn)
 
Last edited:
giusti825 said:
Trying to maintain that weight, no matter how it looks, will cause early death. Its a matter of when, not if.



Click to expand...

Body building is bad for your health. Got it. Always known that. Back to the SHW division deaths though.
 
Rampage_Jackson said:
Body building is bad for your health. Got it. Always known that. Back to the SHW division deaths though.
Click to expand...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/2413...t-conditions-after-careers-in-the-ring-ended/

Also prowrestling.

The common theme: self-induced obesity maintained for LONG periods of time.

I dont feel like looking this all up right now, but im certain someone has compiled a list of obese athletes who died young....its just more prevalent in Pro wrestling and bodybuilding because those are athletic endeavors where size is incentivized.....im sure the nfl likely has a problem with this too with lineman....

https://www.google.com/search?q=NFL...ttack&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab
 
Round times would have to be reduced for Super Heavy Weight unless you want to watch guys sitting there breathing heavy like a video game fighter at rest.
 
Roiding to that size will eventually lead to an early grave.

Humans are not meant to be that large.
 
giusti825 said:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/2413...t-conditions-after-careers-in-the-ring-ended/

Also prowrestling.

The common theme: self-induced obesity maintained for LONG periods of time.

I dont feel like looking this all up right now, but im certain someone has compiled a list of obese athletes who died young....its just more prevalent in Pro wrestling and bodybuilding because those are athletic endeavors where size is incentivized.....im sure the nfl likely has a problem with this too with lineman....

https://www.google.com/search?q=NFL...ttack&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab
Click to expand...
So you don't have any documented deaths of SHW MMA fighters? But you just told me if you try to have SHW fights guys would die left and right and the org would crumble. Its almost like you made that up.
 
Rampage_Jackson said:
So you don't have any documented deaths of SHW MMA fighters? But you just told me if you try to have SHW fights guys would die left and right and the org would crumble. Its almost like you made that up.
Click to expand...

I'm not sure if you're playing dumb, but i just showed you the clear connection between athletes inducing obesity and dying of heart attacks across a myriad of athletics.

The only reason this isn't a problem in mma right now is because its a young sport with zero incentive to compete at SHW.

If the incentive presented itself, the deaths would follow, as it has in EVERY other sport where roiding to that size is incentivized. Even strongmen and powerlifters have the problem.

https://www.google.com/search?q=str...ttack&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab

https://www.google.com/search?q=pow...ttack&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab

If you cant see correlations here, its because you are intentionally ignoring them.....
 
giusti825 said:
I'm not sure if you're playing dumb, but i just showed you the clear connection between athletes inducing obesity and dying of heart attacks across a myriad of athletics.

The only reason this isn't a problem in mma right now is because its a young sport with zero incentive to compete at SHW.

If the incentive presented itself, the deaths would follow, as it has in EVERY other sport where roiding to that size is incentivized. Even strongmen and powerlifters have the problem.

https://www.google.com/search?q=str...ttack&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab

https://www.google.com/search?q=pow...ttack&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab

If you cant see correlations here, its because you are intentionally ignoring them.....
Click to expand...
I just don't think guys who roid out of their mind like power lifters, body builders or pro wrestlers are the same thing as 265-300 lb MMA fighters who would be presumably tested for PEDs and not encouraged to abuse them as I'm sure body builders are and wrestlers were back in the day.

I'm not playing dumb you are just talking about something that I'm not. Body building is bad for you. No shit. That's nothing like training to compete in MMA. MMA fighters have to be built for go, not show.
 
cyrusthevyrus said:
Ok, HW is thin as hell but if some fighters were not obliged to make weight, they would be heavier.

I have in mind Mark Hunt, Struve, Ngannou, Overeem
Click to expand...

A super heavyweight division would be huge.
 
Rampage_Jackson said:
So you don't have any documented deaths of SHW MMA fighters? But you just told me if you try to have SHW fights guys would die left and right and the org would crumble. Its almost like you made that up.
Click to expand...

Found what youre looking for.

https://www.google.com/search?num=4.......0...1c..64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.ArYtv8V5anQ

http://mmajunkie.com/2009/09/medica...ly-death-puts-spotlight-on-super-heavyweights

giphy.gif


Nor should anyone else be.....

Buut i really didnt need to find this to believe it. Anecdotal evidence was everywhere.

2+2=4

Incentivized obesity + money and fame = people willing to kill themselves for money and fame....
 
giusti825 said:
2+2=4

Incentivized obesity + money and fame = people willing to kill themselves for money and fame....
Click to expand...

Money and fame? What SHW MMA fighters are rich or famous? If I were a huge athlete that wanted money or fame MMA is about the last place I would look.
 
Rampage_Jackson said:
What's the life expectancy for a guy that is 6'8 360 anyway? This guy could have had a heart attack if he were working in a factory just the same. Looks terribly unhealthy for any activity
Click to expand...

You said no weight limit right?

This is what happens when humans are too large for their hearts.

This is what a SHW division would lead to....which is likely why the UFC doesnt institute one.
 
Rampage_Jackson said:
Money and fame? What SHW MMA fighters are rich or famous? If I were a huge athlete that wanted money or fame MMA is about the last place I would look.
Click to expand...

Which is exactly why I'm happy the UFC doesnt have a superHW division.

Let these guys go to other sports. I don't want this stuff in mma. Plus the fights would likely be fucking terrible.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
1,236,648
Messages
55,431,891
Members
174,775
Latest member
kilgorevontrouty

Share this page

Back
Top