How would a post Ali Act that included MMA world look like.

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  1. WaylonMercy5150

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    Promotions could only hold a fighters promotional rights for 12 months. Fighters could breach contract if the promoter failed to provide what the commission deemed a competitive and meaningful fight. Fighters training camps, corner , and medical expenses must be included in the contract before signing. Zuffa would not be allowed to co-promote with McGregor unless they freed him from his contract and allowed him to work as his own promoter.
     
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    I actually don't believe this ever happens.

    Some politicians just heard the company sold for 4.2 billion and want their cut for campaign contributions.

    This was a probably an expected outcome of the sale, WME will just pony up and everything will stay the same.
     
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    Dana endorsed Trump, he's never signing it
     
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    Irishwhiskey119 Banned Banned

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    Same but Dana being a cunt about the title match ups and shitting on them if they didn't sell.
     
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    it would ruin the UFC as we know it.
     
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    WaylonMercy5150 Red Belt

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    But would it improve MMA
     
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    Would it really though?

    They have much more money than any other mma promotion and can afford to keep the best talent. They could also poach talent from competitors like bellator much easier.
     
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    that might benefit mma as a sport but not to the promotions since they have all the power right now.
     
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    Do you think it would improve fight quality?
     
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    I think since UFC is already the leading promotion, they will still profit by signing up the most popular fighters and putting on the biggest fights.

    What will change though, is UFC will cut the roster by %70 since there is a 12 month contract limit. There is absolutely no reason for them 'discover' prospects, since everytime a smaller promotion finds a prospect, UFC knows they can poach them within months. This will probably lead to a larger pay gap between fighters who are draws, and the rest.
     
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    I don't think its just some politicians and there is some support from fighters for the Ali Act. There seems to be 2 associations/unions at this point - MMAA and MMAFA. MMAA which GSP/Cain is a part of wants 50% revenue sharing but don't explicitly support Ali Act expansion whereas MMAFA wants the Ali Act. The Ali Act would be a bigger change for MMA.
     
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    UFC already had the brand recognition and capital to sink any of the smaller mma orgs. An interpromotional fight will only happen if there is enough interest. Seriously Bellator doesn' have enough names to make a dent in a post ali act mma world. It wouldn't hurt the UFC as much as you think it would. The UFC can still pay their fighters much more than what Bellator can cough up.
     
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    This is
    None of this is covered by the Ali Act. Not one thing you wrote here
     
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    • (1) to protect the rights and welfare of professional boxers by preventing certain exploitative, oppressive, and unethical business practices they may be subject to on an interstate basis;

      (2) to assist State boxing commissions in their efforts to provide more effective public oversight of the sport; and

      (3) to promote honorable competition in professional boxing and enhance the overall integrity of the industry.


    • (1) IN GENERAL- Any contract between a boxer and a promoter or manager shall--

      • ‘(A) include mutual obligations between the parties;

        ‘(B) specify a minimum number of professional boxing matches per year for the boxer; and

        ‘(C) set forth a specific period of time during which the contract will be in effect, including any provision for extension of that period due to the boxer’s temporary inability to compete because of an injury or other cause.
      ‘(2) 1-year limit on coercive promotional rights-

      • ‘(A) The period of time for which promotional rights to promote a boxer may be granted under a contract between the boxer and a promoter, or between promoters with respect to a boxer, may not be greater than 12 months in length if the boxer is required to grant such rights, or a boxer’s promoter is required to
    grant such rights with respect to a boxer, as a condition precedent to the boxer’s participation in a professional boxing match against another boxer who is under contract to the promoter.


      • ‘(B) A promoter exercising promotional rights with respect to such boxer during the 12-month period beginning on the day after the last day of the promotional right period described in subparagraph (A) may not secure exclusive promotional rights from the boxer’s opponents as a condition of participating in a professional boxing match against the boxer, and any contract to the contrary--

        • ‘(i) shall be considered to be in restraint of trade and contrary to public policy; and

          ‘(ii) unenforceable.
        ‘(C) Nothing in this paragraph shall be construed as pre-empting any State law concerning interference with contracts.
      ‘(3) PROMOTIONAL RIGHTS UNDER MANDATORY BOUT CONTRACTS- Neither a promoter nor a sanctioning organization may require a boxer, in a contract arising from a professional boxing match that is a mandatory bout under the rules of the sanctioning organization, to grant promotional rights
    to any promoter for a future professional boxing match.
     
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    You just cut and billed the text of the act, and what is written there doesn't do any of the things you earlier wrote. The coercive contract provision is specifically directed at options a promoter demands to fight one of his boxers. It doesn't cover boxers already under contract with him. You can have as long as contract as you want with them.
     

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