How do you think Prime Fedor v Prime Jones would go?

It would not happen , Jones would be suspended before the fight takes place
Possibly, but Jones has made it to the cage at least once before in his career so it's always possible
 
In other words, juiced to the gills.

That explains his (annd CC's) subpar US performances.

But really, other than lighting and the way he's standing, looks pretty much the same.

Jones by murder.
Got proof?

He beat Coleman, Sylvia, Arlovski, Rogers in the U.S before he suffered his 3 lose streak. He was 4-0 on U.S soil before that.
 
Not sure just dumb or trolling.


*sigh* Not dumb, nor trolling, just correct. His TDD was the weakest part of his game, he was just so good on the mat and in the scrambles that it didn't really matter. Whenever he faced a guy with a solid take down game, he got put on his back. From Arona (who beat him but got robbed), to Coleman, Randleman, and Lindland (it was a nice rope grab reversal, though) when he faced excellent wrestlers he got taken down. No shame there, nor was there any in Bigfoot and his 40-plus pound advantage taking him down in the cage either, but that's just how I see it.

Fedor's still the HW GOAT, but he wasn't without his flaws.
 
PRIME Fedor beats anyone and everyone.......as proven.
 
Overeem in Pride:

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Overeem under US - Basic PED Testing

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Didn't realize Pride used the cage...
 
Prime has nothing to do with knowing how to defend a choke. Jones via sub
 
You made it relevant the second you posted the Pride / strike force pics

No i did not. You do not understand how logic or logical discussions work.

We can accept a position that both were on PED's during their Prime fighting runs, or neither was, or either one was while the other was not, and none of that matters ONE IOTA to the discussion at hand of which guy would win if you could line them up to fight in their Primes.

Whether they were on PED's or not in their primes contributed to the fighter they were and whatever that was AT THAT TIME is the assumption of how they will face one another in this hypothetical prime fight.
 
Got proof?

He beat Coleman, Sylvia, Arlovski, Rogers in the U.S before he suffered his 3 lose streak. He was 4-0 on U.S soil before that.

So 4-3 on US soil? And Coleman & Rogers were nothing special at all.

And yea, the guy I quoted posted a pic claiming he looked drastically different---at 33.

Maybe he AIDS/cancer.
 
In other words, juiced to the gills.

That explains his (annd CC's) subpar US performances.

But really, other than lighting and the way he's standing, looks pretty much the same.

Jones by murder.

Again irrelevant to the question asked.

If indeed Fedor was juiced to the gills during his prime run and Jones was clean (for sake of argument) then this hypothetical is asking...

'would a Fedor juiced to the gills during his prime run beat a Jones who was not juiced during his prime run?'

The question the TS is asking is not if 'that would be fair' but rather 'who would win based on the reality of who they were, and what they were on during their prime runs'. Therefore being juiced OR NOT is irrelevant to the comparison of who would win if they matched up when they were both in their fighting prime.
 
If it's under UFC rules I can see Jones using his elbows to really hurt Fedor on the ground, pride rules I think I'd favour Fedor.
 
No i did not. You do not understand how logic or logical discussions work.

We can accept a position that both were on PED's during their Prime fighting runs, or neither was, or either one was while the other was not, and none of that matters ONE IOTA to the discussion at hand of which guy would win if you could line them up to fight in their Primes.

Whether they were on PED's or not in their primes contributed to the fighter they were and whatever that was AT THAT TIME is the assumption of how they will face one another in this hypothetical prime fight.
Ok, Bones still would have beat him, unless the fight was in Russia, people make it sound like Fedor was an old guy when he got to Strikeforce, he wasn't and was supposedly the best HW ever and got destroyed multiple times.
 
Fedor circa 2003-2006 wrecks Jones. He was simply a far better and more skilled fighter.

Jones loses rounds, Fedor didn't.
Jones needs to cheat constantly, Fedor didn't.
Jones needs to cut weight and have a massive reach advantage to win. Fedor didn't.
Jones was taken down by Gustaffson.
Jones took more damage against Gustafsson than Fedor did in 10 years.
Jones leaves himself opened to armbars. Fedor had great ambars.
Jones is absolutely terrified to fight at HW. Fedor is the best HW ever.

Fedor beats him up worse than this:

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And finishes this with ease:

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Again irrelevant to the question asked.

If indeed Fedor was juiced to the gills during his prime run and Jones was clean (for sake of argument) then this hypothetical is asking...

'would a Fedor juiced to the gills during his prime run beat a Jones who was not juiced during his prime run?'

The question the TS is asking is not if 'that would be fair' but rather 'who would win based on the reality of who they were, and what they were on during their prime runs'. Therefore being juiced OR NOT is irrelevant to the comparison of who would win if they matched up when they were both in their fighting prime.

OK then. Jones kills any version of Fedor...Prime, Choice, Select, A la carte, etc...
 
Didn't realize Pride used the cage...

pretty sure that was his physique in pride lol....didn't realize i had to post him literally in a pride ring

here is reem vs igor if it makes you feel better

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Ok, Bones still would have beat him, unless the fight was in Russia, people make it sound like Fedor was an old guy when he got to Strikeforce, he wasn't and was supposedly the best HW ever and got destroyed multiple times.
Fair opinion and one I don't agree with.

As evidenced by the pictures Prime Fedor in Pride was in far better shape and his physicality was his biggest weapon during his prime run. His ability to over power and bully guys.

Later in his career he still demonstrated how good he was by still being at the top long after his physicality had diminished greatly.

Just because someone is still winning late in their career trajectory does not mean they are as good as they were during their prime run.

And just so you know EVERY single undefeated or dominant champ is SUPPOSED to the best while they are still winning UNTIL you finally see them lose and realize they were long past their best BUT still winning.

Buster Douglas did not prove Mike Tyson was never that good. He did expose however that even though Tyson was still winning prior he was well PAST his prime run.
 
Fedor circa 2003-2006 wrecks Jones. He was simply a far better and more skilled fighter.

Jones loses rounds, Fedor didn't.
Jones needs to cheat constantly, Fedor didn't.
Jones needs to cut weight and have a massive reach advantage to win. Fedor didn't.
Jones was taken down by Gustaffson.
Jones took more damage against Gustafsson than Fedor did in 10 years.
Jones leaves himself opened to armbars. Fedor had great ambars.

Jones is absolutely terrified to fight at HW. Fedor is the best HW ever.

Jones is terrified huh? Gimme a break. He handled DC---who was undefeated at HW and would also beat Fedor.

Bones has never once struggled to make 205...not once. He is a LHW...who would beat HW Fedor.

Honestly, saying , "Bones is terrified..." takes away any credibility you may have had.
 
Jones is terrified huh? Gimme a break. He handled DC---who was undefeated at HW and would also beat Fedor.

Bones has never once struggled to make 205...not once. He is a LHW...who would beat HW Fedor.

Honestly, saying , "Bones is terrified..." takes away any credibility you may have had.

You lost me there.

DC never fought the best HW's (no Barnett, Bigfoot and Mir weren't the best) and he was not a HW when he fought Jones.

Try again.

Cheers.
 
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