How did Rampage vs Evans UFC 114 do over 1mil PPV buys

Was it because they were coaches on TUF?

It wasnt even for a title either

Plus not a good co main either..Bisping cake walk over journeyman Dan Miller

Jones vs Evans, which had a more better rivalry only did 700K

Jones vs Rampage only did 520K

That's also significantly more than all (4) of Mighty Mouses PPV totals COMBINED

Other fights on the main card

Todd Duffee vs Mike Russo - sub average HW fight
Lil Nog vs journeyman Jason Brilz
No name John Hathway vs Pre Crazy Diego


Another note

UFC 113, the PPV before with the highly anticipated rematch between Machida & Shogun, a title fight
Also with Kimbo
and Kosheck vs Daley on the card
only did 500K buys

It was one of the most watched seasons of Tuf didnt it have kimbo on there and it was heavyweights.
Even my sister watched that tuf on spike, spike did tuf better than fox, tuf on spike was a high drama reality show that even girls watched they really filmed it to cause drama and ratings, now its whatever.
 
I couldn't wait for that fight.. what a let down that was.
 
fake news dave meltzer gave us the numbers

that's how

still though, it was a big fight
did it hit a legit 1m

HELL NO
 
The Primetime was the stuff of legend:

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Was it because they were coaches on TUF?

Yes.

If you didn't watch it you would have missed the hype.

But TUF was still popular at that time.
Then there was the epic scene of Rampage ripping off a door.

Rampage & Rashad confronting each other in the cage post fight to set it up was cool too. Wish they still did that.
 
Was it because they were coaches on TUF?

It wasnt even for a title either

Plus not a good co main either..Bisping cake walk over journeyman Dan Miller

Jones vs Evans, which had a more better rivalry only did 700K

Jones vs Rampage only did 520K

That's also significantly more than all (4) of Mighty Mouses PPV totals COMBINED

Other fights on the main card

Todd Duffee vs Mike Russo - sub average HW fight
Lil Nog vs journeyman Jason Brilz
No name John Hathway vs Pre Crazy Diego


Another note

UFC 113, the PPV before with the highly anticipated rematch between Machida & Shogun, a title fight
Also with Kimbo
and Kosheck vs Daley on the card
only did 500K buys

People were hype as fuck. Their shit talking was grade A. That's the first and ONLY time I saw ghetto hood bitches hyped for a fight. The fight kinda sucked tho.
 
Rampage KOing Chuck and becoming champion put him over

This fight, and his following fights against Machida and Hammill lowered his stock some. Plus everyone knew Jon Jones would just wrestlefuck him
 
Was it because they were coaches on TUF?

It wasnt even for a title either

Plus not a good co main either..Bisping cake walk over journeyman Dan Miller

Jones vs Evans, which had a more better rivalry only did 700K

Jones vs Rampage only did 520K

That's also significantly more than all (4) of Mighty Mouses PPV totals COMBINED

Other fights on the main card

Todd Duffee vs Mike Russo - sub average HW fight
Lil Nog vs journeyman Jason Brilz
No name John Hathway vs Pre Crazy Diego


Another note

UFC 113, the PPV before with the highly anticipated rematch between Machida & Shogun, a title fight
Also with Kimbo
and Kosheck vs Daley on the card
only did 500K buys

A lot of people here have made good points:

Rampage and Shad built things up on TUF. Rampage was a big name. Rashad was pretty big. UFC was doing well generally.

But I actually think the reason that PPV did so well was because of two guys not even on the card:

1) TUF season 10.

TUF season 10 was different and special. It did really, really well. Why? Was it the coaches and their profile? Was it the heat they generated?

Let's look at both of those things:

Heat:

Rampage was good television and Rashad was the perfect foil to all of his antics. Rampage did just enough to make you not like him (bullying the one chubby guy, being generally prideful, etc). He also had great quips and was just generally great in front of the camera. And he was scary. Rampage is a big, scary dude; you know he isn't just all talk. Yet Rashad was not intimidated. Great television. These guys delivered when the eyes were put on them. And the broken door and all the stare downs were gold.

But several seasons of TUF have built up a lot of heat between coaches . . . . (i) CJ and Cody; (ii) Ken and Tito; (iii) Joanna and Claudia etc . . . . Granted, Rampage and Rashad did, as people have mentioned, have a special chemistry together . . . . Cody/Dillashaw had equivalent heat to Rashad/Rampage. But the ratings for that TUF season were pretty low. http://mmapayout.com/2017/04/tuf-25-episode-1-draws-lowest-ever-rating-for-series/ That season hovered around 400k viewers per episode. It was not the heat.

Profile of the coaches:

No way Rampage and Rashad had bigger profiles than Lesnar, Liddell, Tito, or Rich. Yet TUF season 10 had way more initial interest. Just look at the debut episode ratings for seasons 1-12. Season 10 sticks out like a sore thumb.
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/3/...ratings-history-of-the-ultimate-fighter-first

So if Season 10 wasn't successful based on the heat or the coaches, what was it?

Two words: Kimbo Slice . . . . . He put the eyes on Page and Rashad that season of TUF. His draw was all those two guys needed to sell the goods once they had the eyes on them. Kimbo Slice on TUF season 10 translated into huge PPV buys for UFC 114.

To understand how special a performer Season 10 was, take a look at the fact that TUF season 10 never got below 2.4M viewers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Fighter:_Heavyweights

One season later, with huge names in Chuck and Tito/Rich as the coaches (definitely bigger names than Rashad and Rampage at the time), you had almost 700k less viewers for most episodes. The finale only drew 1.6M viewers.
https://mmajunkie.com/2010/06/the-u...include-1-6-million-viewers-for-episode-no-11

Take a look at the ratings provided here for TUF seasons 12 - 16. Never got above 1.7M viewers.
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/10...imate-fighter-ratings-shows-disturbing-trends

Something was going on for TUF season 10. It was Kimbo. He drew the eyes for Rampage and Rashad to deliver the goods. That season of TUF then sold viewers for the PPV.

2) Forrest was supposed to be on the card. He was still a huge draw from his fairy tale on TUF 1. He didn't fight. But he did draw interest to the card while he was on it.

But, really, it was Kimbo. Kimbo Kimbo Kimbo.
 
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You said it in the title "Rampage". Dude sells tickets. That accompanied by their feud on TUF made for an easy sell.
 
I think it received a considerable boost from all of Rampage's A Team buzz. He was all over the place doing promo for the movie in the 6 months leading up to this card. And the movie premiered like a week or 2 later so this card happened at the point when the promotional push was at its highest. Plus, like others have said, their seaon of TUF was huge. Did big numbers.
 
CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS FOR A MINUTE!?!?

Rashad just came off being undefeated and losing his championship to Machida.

Rampage's only lose was to Forrest Griffin at the time and was coming off a KO of Chuck Liddell, beats Dan Henderson in a super fight, brutally knocks out Wandy for revenge, beats Rashad's good friend and training partner Keith Jardine then squares off with Rashad in the cage after the fight for hype and we hear "I WANT MY BELT BACK!!!" .... but the fight never happened and instead we got Machida vs Evans and Evans got knocked out.

We did get TUF 10 - Heavyweights with some guys like Schaub, Matt Mitrione, Roy Nelson, Justin Wren, Marcus 'Big Baby' Jones, James McSweeney, Wes Sims, and KIMBO SLICE... all these guys made the season interesting + the trash talking every week was something we all tuned in for between Rampage and Evans + Kimbo's debut fight which peaked at 7.25mil but at the same time the lowest ratings were never under 2.4mil viewers all season.

TUF 10 debuted at 4.25mil but these days TUF only averages 200k.
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2018/4/...son-premiere-averages-200000-viewers-ufc-news
 
Hottest feud on the TUF. They really got in the gutter. It was said jokingly but the whole black on black ultra hate ultra violent promos sold the hell out of it. It had a real feel that they would kill each other.

That season of TUF was good with some really good fighters and of course the Kimbo element drew added attention. The UFC has always hoped that heat is there between the coaches. There have been some good tensions and exchanges between the coaches since Rashad/Rampage but nothing to their level.
 
Looking back at it now, Rashad headlined a few very big UFC PPVs. The Rampage fight was his 2nd 1 million buy PPV, the 1st being UFC 92 which was an outstanding card overall. But his Machida fight did 600+ as well. As did his fight with Jones. Rashad's fist headline was 400+ against Tito and then a few cards later he landed a KO of the century against the biggest star in the game. That was good for a half million or so too. Rashad was a solid earner.
 
Im guessing TS wasn't watching mma at the time. Rampage vs Rashad had a massive build up.

doesn't hurt that Duffe had massive hype, Diego was still a big star, Miller wasn't looked at as a journeyman yet, and Lil Nog fighting was still a big deal at the time, even though Griffin pulled out and he was fighting Brilz
 
Kimbo wasn't on the card. However he definitely elevated the buyrate by being on the TUF show.
Oh yeah that was 113 huh. I watched both cards at the place, the only 2 cards I watched at this particular place, so I always get the 2 confused.
 
Im guessing TS wasn't watching mma at the time. Rampage vs Rashad had a massive build up.

doesn't hurt that Duffe had massive hype, Diego was still a big star, Miller wasn't looked at as a journeyman yet, and Lil Nog fighting was still a big deal at the time, even though Griffin pulled out and he was fighting Brilz
Yeah man, Im pretty sure Duffee had already gotten a Flex magazine cover at this point. Off the strength of 1 UFC fight!
 
We (the US) love our black on black crime.
We get another heeding serving at ufc 226.
 
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