How come Paige VanZant isn't getting the equal amount of hate for ducking like other fighters do?

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It's funny you hate on Valentina but were in tears when everyone gave stick to Joanna. I imagine if Joanna decided she was going to 125lbs and called out PVZ, you would have no issue with Joanna posturing against poor little Paige. I can't even begin to imagine how much you'd hate Valentina is she acted like Joanna does.

It's simple, this is a new division and the UFC have (supposedly) attempted to gift PVZ a title shot. Valentina wants the belt (like most fighters), we all know the title is going to the TUF winner, so who gets first shot is up for grabs. Valentina was totally justified in calling PVZ out for a 'title eliminator' bout.

The question is why should PVZ get first shot ? Why not Valentina who is coming off a title fight in the 135lb division ? The fact everyone, including Valentina detractors such as your self, admit it's such an easy fight for her says it all. Valentina would walk through Paige, she's the better fighter and has earned the title shot more so than PVZ. Not to mention the fact she's willing to fight to earn it, instead of wanting to wait it out and get gifted it.

This title shot wasn't earned by PVZ, it's being gifted due to looks, popularity and her DWTS stint. The fact some people don't have a problem with that is odd, considering how much UFC fans supposedly hate unjustified title shots.

The fact people are giving Valentin stick for this is hilarious. Imagine a fighter wanting to fight, imagine a fighter wanting to earn the title shot and challenging those in their way. Can you imagine that ? How horrible.

What if PVZ won the title and refused to fight Valentina ? It's possibly, I mean we have many champions who attempt to avoid unfavorable match ups. It's a smart move on Valentinas part to attempt to interject here and stop PVZ from holding up the division, it's also smart to publicly call her out to front on her and make her look weak, in case she does win the title and Valentina can use the call out as PR, she could sit there and 'sell the fight' by saying PVZ has ducked her and is continuing to do so. It pressures PVZ to accept the fight in the future to save face.

Don't you Joanna fans love 'selling fights' ? Fighters who talk a big game ?

LOL. Nobody but PVZ ever sais PVZ was getting the first shot, Dana straight up laughed it off. "Your" girl (so pathetic) is just looking for an easy win, like a punk. Get over it.

 

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Still waiting for her to shave her head. Until then, I give 0 f*cks about anything she's involved in .

This.

She has already hit such lows that for people to hate her with more fury shed have to do some shit like her brother did...

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[BraNerd]

Cause she is extremely average and has no business fighting the best.

 

[tjumper78]

no one cares because she is not relevant

 

[315MMAFighter]

Because literally no one takes her seriously as a fighter...


The T-shirt says it all...

Valentina called her out and she DDDUCKED big time. Valentina would crush her, shi* I believe any top 10 would crush her.

 

[315MMAFighter]

no one cares because she is not relevant

Sorry to say it but this is my opinion to. I'm sorry to all the hardcore die-hard wmma fans out there......



Lmao

 

[ZackZed]

I don't blame her for ducking Shevshenko. Paige isn't exactly a contender, would've gotten her head caved in.

 

[kuka45]

I thought it was actually smart on Valentina's part given that PVZ implied on Twitter that she would be first in line for title shot against the TUF winner (who will be the first FLW champion). Valentina's calling out of Paige was basically to say, oh you want to fight for the title, let's have a title eliminator. I thought it was more of an establishing of a hierarchy. I doubt she ever assumed Paige would fight her. It would be way too much too soon for her entering a new division and coming off a loss and layoff.

Shev got history of boosting her mma record with strawweights from Peru, it's just probably her style.

 

[Co-Co Zola]

LOL. Nobody but PVZ ever sais PVZ was getting the first shot, Dana straight up laughed it off. "Your" girl (so pathetic) is just looking for an easy win, like a punk. Get over it.

Dana is a beacon of truth.


Joanna runs her mouth, mocks her opponents, puts her fists on them, presses her head against there's, refuses to touch gloves, makes them cry, mocks them backstage/off-camera
Joanna fans: hahha, what a fucking bad ass savage. She's such a boss. Rose is fucking done, she's literally crying what a basketcase, lmao. I can't wait till you Joanna haters cry your eyes out when #JoannaChampion slaughters Rose.

After the fight
Joanna fans: Everyone mocking Joanna is a fucking loser, how pathetic can you get actually enjoying seeing a 115lb GIRL crying, haters GTFO, #stillmygirl

Valentina, in reply to PVZ claiming she's getting the first shot, says "hey, I want that shot, fight me first".
Joanna fans: Valentina is such a coward and a bully for calling out poor little paige. Reeeeeee

 

[Akabignasty]

Only reasons:

 

[leto1776]

Dana is a beacon of truth.


Joanna runs her mouth, mocks her opponents, puts her fists on them, presses her head against there's, refuses to touch gloves, makes them cry, mocks them backstage/off-camera
Joanna fans: hahha, what a fucking bad ass savage. She's such a boss. Rose is fucking done, she's literally crying what a basketcase, lmao. I can't wait till you Joanna haters cry your eyes out when #JoannaChampion slaughters Rose.

After the fight
Joanna fans: Everyone mocking Joanna is a fucking loser, how pathetic can you get actually enjoying seeing a 115lb GIRL crying, haters GTFO, #stillmygirl

Valentina, in reply to PVZ claiming she's getting the first shot, says "hey, I want that shot, fight me first".
Joanna fans: Valentina is such a coward and a bully for calling out poor little paige. Reeeeeee

She's a coward because coming off a (failed) title bid at 135, she calls out PVZ. She could have called out Calderwood, Faria, Borella, Eye, Any of a number of others. Instead, she calls out one fighter considered to be the easiest, and someone moving up from 115 at that.

WEAK SAUCE.

Get over it.

 

[Co-Co Zola]

She's a coward because coming off a (failed) title bid at 135, she calls out PVZ. She could have called out Calderwood, Faria, Borella, Eye, Any of a number of others. Instead, she calls out one fighter considered to be the easiest, and someone moving up from 115 at that.

WEAK SAUCE.

Get over it.

I'm sure Valentina is quaking in her boots at the prospect of having to go toe-to-toe with Jo-Jo Calderwood.

I understand your pent up rage buddy, supporting the likes of Grasso who got boxed up by WBC, WBO & WBA champion Felice Herrig. Joanna who got mauled against K-1 legend Rose...hard times in the Leto house hold. It seems you're totally oblivious to your bias.

You should just stick to making threads of support for random Asian WMMA fighters, and fawning over Grasso. Leave the fight talk to the experts.

 

[NHB7]

She isn’t top tier. I also don’t care if the guy on the fight pass prelims ducks someone either.

 

[ufc_vs_pride]

Pvz vs Shevchenko is Bellator type style mismatch. Sean would be idiot booking that fight so soon

 

[Meathead Jock]

Because she is an afterthought that is no where near the title picture and the fighters getting hate are near a title shot or have the belt so people care.

 

[Roukas]

She knows her skill level and UFC does too that match should have never even been presented to her

 

[WARinsertname]

Because I, like many others I'm sure, lack any fucks to give about wmma.

 

[Chris Gaines]

 

[leto1776]

I'm sure Valentina is quaking in her boots at the prospect of having to go toe-to-toe with Jo-Jo Calderwood.

I understand your pent up rage buddy, supporting the likes of Grasso who got boxed up by WBC, WBO & WBA champion Felice Herrig. Joanna who got mauled against K-1 legend Rose...hard times in the Leto house hold. It seems you're totally oblivious to your bias.

You should just stick to making threads of support for random Asian WMMA fighters, and fawning over Grasso. Leave the fight talk to the experts.

Lol. Your two favorite fighters:
Gadelha: coming off a loss where she got humiliated.
Saltchenko: coming off a loss, then proceeded to act foolish and turned a lot of fans against her, now trying to call out PVZ

You're such the expert ROFL.

 

[leto1776]

Pvz vs Shevchenko is Bellator type style mismatch. Sean would be idiot booking that fight so soon

Exactly. Shevchenko calling out PVZ just made her look bad.