How come Carson Wentz, and Jimmy Garappolo did not attend big time FB schools | Page 2

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  1. Cint Risen

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    QB position is a crapshoot. Success in college doesn't necessarily means success in the pros. Look what happened to RG3 and Kaepernick. Both were excellent early in their career then flamed out. @MadSquabbles500 @therealdope
     
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    He is 6'2".
     
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    Didnt UNeb win natl champ during those years inspite?
     
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    Not in 91, 92, 93.
     
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    That's what I thought too, but the average height amongst QB in the nfl is 6"4. A lot of pros that used to play say that it helps see over your linemen and have overall better field vision. That's why guys like Drew Brees and Russel Wilson are so unique
     
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    A lot of starting O-Line are like 6'5" plus. I only think there are just a handful of QBs taller than 6'4". Flacco, Osweiler, Foles, Wentz, and a lot of heights are slightly embellished. A lot of D-Line guys are taller too than most QBs.
     
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    I'm just basing it off what I've read and watched I'm no expert. I can definitely see the advantage of being taller though, I definitely agree it doesn't translate to talent.
     
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    Jimmy G. didn't go to a high school football powerhouse by any means. He went to the same college as Romo who grew up under similar circumstances. He's lucky he was drafted as high as he was, unlike Romo who was undrafted. Apparently coach Belichick saw some Brady-like qualities he had, even coming out of a small school.
     
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    I don't really follow college FB and don't at all follow HS sports, so I really couldn't tell you.

    How many of the top QB's in the NFL were considered top prospects coming out of HS? I'm genuinely curious.
     
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    Tbf RG3 got ruined by Canahan
     
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    Quite a bit actually. Even Brees Brady, Wilson were recruited by D1A schools, even if pro scouts did not think much of them. All except Wentz, Flacco, Garoppolo, went to D1A schools. Rodgers was overlooked, but he made his way to Cal, and pro scouts loved him.
     
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    A lot of big time programs don't run a pro style offense. Plus, it happens. Steve McNair went to Alcorn State, Flacco went to Delaware, Favre went to Southern Miss (an FBS program but still not big time), Big Ben at Miami of Ohio, Romo went to Eastern Illinois, etc.
     
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    Alex Smith: 2* #39 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2002-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
    Bortles: 3* #33 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2010-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
    Cam: 5* #2 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2007-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
    Carr: 4* #16 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2009-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
    Cousins: 3* #49 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2008-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
    Dak: 4* #20 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2011-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
    Dalton: 3* #29 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2006-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
    Flacco: 3* #39 Pro Style https://n.rivals.com/position_rankings/football/2003/PRO
    Gabbert: 4* #2 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2007-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
    Garoppolo: 2* #67 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2010-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
    Goff: 4* #15 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2013-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
    Keenum: 2* #50 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2006-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
    Kizer: 4* #14 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2014-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
    Luck: 4* #3 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2008-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
    Mariota: 4* #18 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2011-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
    Ryan: 3* #40 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2003-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
    Stafford: 5* #1 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2006-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
    Tannehill: 3* #19 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2007-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
    Trubiski: 4* #6 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2013-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
    Tyrod Taylor: 5* #1 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2007-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
    Watson: 4* #1 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2014-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
    Wilson: 3* #25 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2007-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
    Winston: 5* #1 Duel Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2012-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL

    I couldn't find anything on Big Ben, Brady, Brees, Eli, McCown, Rivers, Rodgers (pre-JuCo) and Wentz.
    Nothing for Denver either since no one gives a fuck about any of their QBs.
     
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    Re: Brady.

    He sent out tapes of his highlights. A michigan assistant showed it top Gary Moeller and he thought he "looked like he could play QB".

    On the topic of HS recruiting, this is interesting:

    https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/s...gh-school-recruiting-rankings-are-a-joke.html
     
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    You mean Shanahan. He ruined Colt Brennan's career too. @kuromusha
     
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    Being blackballed for standing up to social injustices is not "flaming out."
     
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  18. Cint Risen

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    There's no proof of the NFL blackballing Kaepernick. At his best he's only a backup QB now.
     
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  19. Madmick Stop Spoiling My TV Life (it's the one I like)

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    Nobody had any clue Jimmy would be this good.
     
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  20. Madmick Stop Spoiling My TV Life (it's the one I like)

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    Dude, we traded up, and our new, capable quarterback doesn't have a circus strapped to his back.

    #dealwithit
     
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