home defense...? couple of questions...

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  1. sub_thug

    sub_thug Silver Belt

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    This is generally my preferred set-up as well, although I would sub out the 5.56 for .300 AAC.

    Shotguns may very easily require follow-up shots that are harder to take because it's a shotgun, while something on the AR platform will be much easier. A 9mm would work very well also, but that implies that you can actually take accurate shots with a pistol on a moving dinner-plate-sized target from across a room ;)
     
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    RerouteToRemain Silver Belt

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    You running it suppressed?

    I'm partial to the black Hills 5.56 77gr tmk myself.

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    Starts to open and fragment basically immediately. It's not yaw dependent for that fragmentation either.
     
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    Ash E Larry God D@mn I love me!

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    Bird shot does work, you still have to/should aim, and if you buy a Glock 17 do you plan on aiming when you fire that gun at least?
     
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    Gregolian .45 ACP Platinum Member

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    Could do a 9mm AR.
     
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    sub_thug Silver Belt

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    You could, but where’s the fun in that?
     
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    Gregolian .45 ACP Platinum Member

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    Pretend it's an MP5?
     
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    sub_thug Silver Belt

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    Haha, no need to pretend if you know the right people
     
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    Gregolian .45 ACP Platinum Member

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    I hate you so much right now.
     
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    Keep the MP5, I want these.....
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    RerouteToRemain Silver Belt

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  11. Gregolian

    Gregolian .45 ACP Platinum Member

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    This guy gets it @sub_thug

    God I want to build a Glock patterened 9mm so bad now. Need to finish my standard 15 and AR10 projects first though
     
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    FyrFytr998 Gemtor Belt

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    Some other non Glock mag 9mm options as well.....

    AR Style
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    Sig MPX
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    B&T
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    CZ Evo Scorpian
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    RerouteToRemain Silver Belt

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    I want a scorpion.

    The big advantage for the AR pattern 9mm is AR triggers imo.
     
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    FyrFytr998 Gemtor Belt

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    So far I’m most in love with the Kriss vector. Watching it fire with literally no muzzle rise is amazing. I understand 9mm is not a monster round, but still. Check out the control on rapid fire....



    I just need to weigh whether or not I want to drop 1.8k for a CT legal one.
     
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    RerouteToRemain Silver Belt

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    I'm not a big fan. I've shot the .45 version a bunch of times.
     
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    Gregolian .45 ACP Platinum Member

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    The Vector is a cool gun but the damn price scares me off.
     
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    Thought you had a Kriss and said you really liked it.
     
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    Atomic 187 Is this the designated "safe space"?

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    Will bird shot "work" - yes

    Would a larger shot be more effective - yes (caveats on gauge, which shot size, choked barrel vs non, ......) I actually prefer a #2 shot to stifle overpenetration. But that is primarily due to the layout of my current house and it leaves me with several areas to clear where the kids bedrooms are just 2-4 layers of drywall away. If I didn't have that constraint, I would definitely be pushing low recoil 00 down the tube

    Lethal distance - If you can't get it done in under 21 ft, you are in trouble (also need to check your state and local laws on castle doctrine) You are far better off taking that life than wounding and being brought up for a civil suit later

    As far as pistol caliber carbines and PDW's - yes a million times over

    I'm currently running a 10.5" 9mm AR platform as my primary bump in the night weapon. There's still scattergun accessibility at all times, but those are for other situations





    Get training!!!!!!! And then get some more
     
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    My friend has it now. It's also currently broken. Won't pick up the next round. You can manually cycle, it ejects fine.

    At the time there wasn't really any other options. It's definitely fun, just not a fan compared to some of the newer options. I don't like the way it recoils. I feel like it almost all transfers to my trigger hand vs my shoulder.

    I still want to try a 10mm version.
     
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    Whereas I'm pleasantly surprised by how enjoyable the 9mm carbine version is to shoot. A few others have put rounds through it and seemed positive about the experience.

    My biggest gripe was as a lefty it's hard not to hit the mag release when gripping the receiver. Nothing a VFG didn't solve.
     

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