Here is my big question: WHY are you Liberal, or Conservative

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I mean, its honest. Tell me why.

I am Republican, because I am pro fucking up other countries, guns and cutting funding for your homeless ass getting 500 bucks a week for unemployment.

We have never really seen a thread where you show us your true colors. I want to know why.

I can honestly say I am only partially republican since I agree with what about half of them say.

But i will fight your PC shit to the death, and it kills me that they are brainwashing kids with it now.
 
Open white nationalist racists support the Republican Party as do Christian bigots. I believe in affordable college for all, basic medical care for all, food and clean water for all and affordable housing for all.

I could never be a republican for all reasons stated above. I could also never get behind a president who admits to sexual assault, lies about everything, refuses to learn because he already “knows more than the generals”.

My goodness I could go on and on

How anyone with a working brain isn’t a Democrat or an independent is beyond me.
 
I’m a communist because of aesthetics. Just check this out:

 
Depends how you mean it. On the simplest level, I'm a liberal because I think liberals make much better arguments for their positions than socialists or right-wingers. Like, climate change is real and is caused by human activity. There's no good argument against that. Regressive tax cuts don't drive growth. Poverty is mostly a result of a market economy (in all market economies about half the population--children, the elderly, and the disabled mostly--don't get market income and only about half of them are dependents of someone/s with enough market income to keep the household out of poverty). Etc.

I think those are just matters of objective truth, but it's a little misleading because many people on the right argue for positions in bad faith. Like, I think climate-science denial comes from people not really wanting to face or especially address reality rather than people actually being too dumb to understand it.
 
I am a Liberal/socialist because its a better system.
If you look at the countries in the world that work best for the largest amount of the population they are usually democratic socialist.
 
I'm a Christian, and the liberal worldview of pro-abortion, pro-Islam, pro-homosexulity, pro-transgender, social justice, anti-white male, and anti-Christian, does not fit with what I believe. So I am a conservative. That's why I can't vote for liberals today.
 
In terms of American politics, I am definitively anti-conservative because their party and movement has abandoned all semblance of principle and policy coherency/responsibility. At least in the days of GHWB you could still at least try to convince yourself that "fiscal conservatism" was still a thing and that the traditionalist views on abortion, etc. were genuine. Now, it's become intellectually shameless, fiscally reckless, and pointedly desperate looting of the economy for the ultra-rich and open enabling of corruption - all passed through the lens of reactionary identity politics. Literally almost no Republican Party positions are empirically sound or sustainable at this point.

In more personal political terms, I'm a leftist because I believe in emancipation from illegitimate power, I reject moral objectivism, and I do not believe that only some persons should get to experience liberty on the basis of arbitrary and completely un-meritocratic grounds. I'm a socialist because I believe that workers should own and operate the fruits of their labor, that the marketplace and economy should be democratized and operated by the many people who comprise it, not the select few who monopolize it, and human lives should not be commodified at the margins of games of excesses for those few. I'm a communist because I believe that private property ownership and acquisition is ultimately a zero sum game which cannot be brought to its maximum expression without dooming all known life.
 
I'm a Christian, and the liberal worldview of pro-abortion, pro-Islam, pro-homosexulity, pro-transgender, social justice, anti-white male, and anti-Christian does not fit with what I believe. So I am a conservative.

so to paraphrase "I'm a christian and I want to make it illegal for anyone to engage in any behaviors that I disagree with, and I bend reality to make myself a victim"
 
I'm a Christian, and the liberal worldview of pro-abortion, pro-Islam, pro-homosexulity, pro-transgender, social justice, anti-white male, and anti-Christian, does not fit with what I believe. So I am a conservative. That's why I can't vote for liberals today.

Jesus would have been a social justice warrior. He would be for healthcare for all, housing for all, affordable college for all.

Jesus would have been a socialist
 
Well, I guess it’s because the democrat party I grew up with is dead.
 
Well, I guess it’s because the democrat party I grew up with is dead.

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Jesus would have been a social justice warrior. He would be for healthcare for all, housing for all, affordable college for all.

Jesus would have been a socialist
People who spurn Jesus are always ready to tell Christians what Jesus would have done. Sometimes they are right, but not often.

Jesus was infuriatingly hard to nail down on political issues. Given the difficulty of knowing where he stood on the issues of his own day, it can be a bit arrogant to claim too certainly where he'd stand on the issues of our day. Jesus almost always talked about how individuals should live, and the moral and religious demands they should consider themselves internally beholden to rather than about the way society should be organized.

Personally, my Christianity informs my political positions, but almost always indirectly. I also know people with very different politics than my own who are fervent Christians. Ultimately, it's not a religion with strong political demands. I think center right and center left positions in the US both fir well enough with Christianity, but I see alt right and far left views as being much harder to reconcile with a biblical worldview.
 
People who spurn Jesus are always ready to tell Christians what Jesus would have done. Sometimes they are right.

Jesus was infuriatingly hard to nail down on political issues. Given the difficulty of knowing where he stood on the issues of his own day, it a bit of arrogance to claim too certainly where he'd stand on the issues of our day. Jesus almost always talked about how individuals should live, and the moral and religious demands they should consider themselves internally beholden to rather than about the way society should be organized.

Personally, my Christianity informs my political positions, but almost always indirectly. I also know people with very different politics than my own who are fervent Christians. Ultimately, it's not a religion with strong political demands. I think center right and center left positions in the US both fir well enough with Christianity, but I see alt right and far left views as being much harder to reconcile with a biblical worldview.

Ok well ripskater portrays himself to be very far to the right which was my point. He is either not a Christian or not as far right as he wants us to believe
 
I'm not American, so I'm not really a "liberal" or "conservative".
Most of my politics are informed by strong belief in meritocracy, egalitarianism, good stewardship and the inherent value of human life.
 
Like, climate change is real and is caused by human activity. There's no good argument against that.
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The point?

Human caused global warming if far from settled:
Panicking about climate change? See the rest of the story.

As far as the right/left paradigm and I? I have never felt like voting for anyone, but for maybe Ron Paul and I take the wedge issues on a case by case basis. Obviously, the 2nd amendment is there for a reason like the rest of them, but without the 2nd, we have none. Until something better comes along, just follow the constitution as it was intended.

The PC culture the commies are trying to create is ridiculous as is even the discussion of abortion.

Bring our kids home and develop a foreign policy that is equally fair to all nations.

And for crying out loud, take back our cash and credit from the foreign regime we handed it over to decades ago!
 
Personally, my Christianity informs my political positions, but almost always indirectly. I also know people with very different politics than my own who are fervent Christians. Ultimately, it's not a religion with strong political demands. I think center right and center left positions in the US both fir well enough with Christianity, but I see alt right and far left views as being much harder to reconcile with a biblical worldview.

My girlfriend grew up very religious, and we've discussed how it influenced her political leanings. She says she became liberal as a direct result of her religious upbringing. Some people use religion to go the opposite direction, but I think it really depends on what aspects of your religion you choose to concentrate on. For her, her faith was about seeing the humanity in people, helping the less fortunate, caring for the sick, treating people with dignity, etc. Those were the teachings of Christianity that meant the most to her, and she saw those traits more reflected on the liberal side.
 
My girlfriend grew up very religious, and we've discussed how it influenced her political leanings. She says she became liberal as a direct result of her religious upbringing. Some people use religion to go the opposite direction, but I think it really depends on what aspects of your religion you choose to concentrate on. For her, her faith was about seeing the humanity in people, helping the less fortunate, caring for the sick, treating people with dignity, etc. Those were the teachings of Christianity that meant the most to her, and she saw those traits more reflected on the liberal side.
Yep, I know a lot of people whom I respect deeply with the same viewpoints.
 
My girlfriend grew up very religious, and we've discussed how it influenced her political leanings. She says she became liberal as a direct result of her religious upbringing. Some people use religion to go the opposite direction, but I think it really depends on what aspects of your religion you choose to concentrate on. For her, her faith was about seeing the humanity in people, helping the less fortunate, caring for the sick, treating people with dignity, etc. Those were the teachings of Christianity that meant the most to her, and she saw those traits more reflected on the liberal side.

Curious, which traits of Christianity would move someone to the right in your opinion?
 
Thread's been done, but I am liberal because I support universal healthcare, environmental protection, and workers rights/ unions.

Note: Whatever I, or any other liberal actually says, trumpbots will still say we are liberals because we want open borders.

Edit: And like clockwork, post #22, #25... lol

I am Republican, because I am pro fucking up other countries
Well, there it is.
 
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Curious, which traits of Christianity would move someone to the right in your opinion?

Hyper calvinism and a focus on end times prophecy would certainly do it.
 
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