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Holocaust denial, bone-deep racism, lies when confronted about being a presuppositional apologist for Christianity, lies about other people's arguments every time, etc.Beat me to it.
Holocaust denial, bone-deep racism, lies when confronted about being a presuppositional apologist for Christianity, lies about other people's arguments every time, etc.Beat me to it.
@Devout Pessimist posted about it in my thread earlier. I was mistaken about the girl having her Hijab cut off.
I should not have made a thread about it. It was the wrong thing to do.
I don't remember @Jack V Savage ever having a high opinion of Bernie Sanders. He's
always had a thing for Hillary Clinton.
Tend to be somewhere between you and fawlty.I remember @InternetHero being a very partisan and unpleasant right winger, then he disappeared and returned recently as quite an odd but interesting poster. I quite like his posts now.
@sub_thug is a good one. @PainIsLIfe hasn't stood out to me yet, maybe we just frequent different sorts of threads.
@Zankou is actually the guy who made me confront my doubts about my religion. Excellent poster but doesn't really post here anymore so I don't really consider him a WRer anymore, which is a shame because he added a lot when he did frequent this place.
I agree on alanb, he's a net positive in terms of contributions to the forum because of his expertise but he has some woefully misguided views outside that. I remember he made an egregious comment once that I hounded him over for a while.
RKD knows his shit when it came to Russian politics and I always appreciated that he offered a counter balance to the Putin worship that was really bad here a few years ago. Lecter was very knowledgeable in computer science and I learned a thing or two from him so I'll always appreciate that. Plus he was willing to criticize and satirize other right wingers so he gets points for that from me and when he did criticize the left it was usually not baseless from what I remember
Cuauhtemoc definitely strikes me as a right winger, he's just a fairly lucid one who attempts to, and usually does, understand why leftists believe what they do and won't just engage in partisan pot shots or strawman arguments
TheGreatA makes a lot of good posts, but he also engages in a lot of sophistry when he tries to present as much more moderate than he is. His praise of trolls in one thread exposed him on that, I think.
Seems to me like there is nothing that can change anyone's mind. If someone is in fact proven wrong, they don't respond, they'll go into hiding and try to find another thread to discuss their (wrong) ideas.
I don't know if shriek is fair, he usually has these weird posts and its not always clear what he means. More like he stops by to post some stream of consciousness post and then leaves. But sometimes I find his posts interesting and in a way that's unique to him. I see what you're saying about his kind of vague POV which doesn't really make clear what he's getting at and feels kind of non-committal but I haven't pressed him to find out if he'd be more clear when confronted on it so I give him the benefit of the doubt.He's still very unpleasant and he always seems to be shrieking. He also does the DS thing where he hides his bias but isn't unbiased. Definitely smarter and better-educated than most right-wingers here, though.
That's that Christian solidarity I was talking about. Thurisaz could say some racist shit and DS' defense would be "well at least he's consistent, unlike BLM!" He never could seem to bring himself to criticize other Christian posters which is why I resented him claiming I'm the same with Islam. Yeah I do go at it with the critics of Islam more often than defenders but that's mainly because the former are more common here than the latter and when I do see bad arguments in defense of Islam I'll push back against those too.I thought his relationship with Thuriasz was very telling. That guy is plain sick. One of the nastiest dudes here and with a very ugly set of beliefs, but DS would always "like" his posts and would list him as his favorite poster. So DS presented fake civility but seemed to admire Thuriasz's freedom from that kind of constraint.
1. I'm not a mature adult.Yeah, the mature adults in this forum that don't think they are the epitome of knowledge and are Gods gift to the internet.
Your name sounds like poopy. Heh.Yeah, the mature adults in this forum that don't think they are the epitome of knowledge and are Gods gift to the internet.
Come on man, pick a side!I don't think I've ever tried to present myself as moderate. I don't think I've represented myself as anything particular, to be honest. I criticize all sides of the spectrum equally, and points out flawed ideological patterns wherever I observe them. Right, left, center, wherever.
I don't operate within the limited sphere of binary American politics, and cannot be constrained within those restrictions.
On that we probably do agree.My "praise of trolls" was an attempt to humour a conversation that other people ultimately seemed to be incapable of having, about the nature of the internet, anonymousness, and the exchange of unfiltered, often destructively creative ideas, unrestricted by the required "civility" and rigidness of real-life interactions. That we do not see its unregulated, often brutishly blunt nature as a "necessary evil" of the internet, is madness to me, considering most of the people I conversed with, were people who themselves came to the internet to hold conversations that they were incapable of having in real life situations.
I had kind of the opposite trajectory when it comes to SSM and homosexuality in general. Used to be a standard liberal on those issues in that I strongly supported them and thought all conservative opposition to it was baseless bigotry coming from mouth-breathers. There is a lot of baseless bigotry from the right on these issues, especially from American politicians and preachers, but I think I've come to understand some of the conservative objections to homosexuality throughout my time here.I've admitted I was wrong a few times and I've changed my positions on a lot of issues.
I was strongly anti ssm and thought the ACA was too expensive to deal with for the small amount of people it helped.
I changed my views on both issues; not a total 180 - still wish ssm was called something different, but I support their right to live their life with all the benefits of hetero marriage. I still think they could have come up with a better option on ACA, but I've seen the people it helps and I support it.
Sometimes. I know that my views on individual politicians have shifted in part to things I've seen in these forums. I don't think there are many aboutfaces. I think @Gandhi 's views have shifted meaningfully over time, and he has attributed that a bit to conversations here.
I accept that as a plausible argument and I don't even have a problem with it. My feeling is that the rise of "Independents" and the catastrophe of radical, sorta-fascism caused by gerrymandering is a wave all its own. You have to be a nut job to win a primary now. The country is moving in exactly the direction the Republicans have been pushing for over 30 years- and successfully now on the back of a spineless Executive. So, I can't separate the causal relationships in all of this. Remove money from politics and it might be even more radical. Remove Trump and somebody might actually have the balls to say "no" to a Republican.
tl/dr I think CU is theoretically unsound but I see no strong evidence that's the case.
I liked Bernie and Clinton about the same (I had different things I liked and disliked about them) and said that I would have expected similar results from them.
Seems to me like there is nothing that can change anyone's mind. If someone is in fact proven wrong, they don't respond, they'll go into hiding and try to find another thread to discuss their (wrong) ideas.
You have strange taste in people. Don't know what to say to some of those...I'll say Rex is a lot of fun to post with as long as it's not anything remotely to do with politics.
Besides the obvious half dozen or so high quality right wingers, I'd say sub thug is an excellent poster who flies under the radar. PainIsLife is generally quite a good contributor too. InternetHero has been a little strange since his return but he's highly intelligent/well educated, and he seems to be on the right, on balance. btw where do you peg Zank these days? He seems to have gone full blow nihilist but i dunno lol.
bonus one: AlanB takes the crown for low tide/high tide imo. His posts where he's weighing in with expertise or isn't biased are excellent, but the posts where he is biased are some of the worst posts in the WR, bar none.