Has anyone else seen this GSP E-mail drug testing controversy?

[HiMyNameIs***]

Georges camp is asking all of those detailed questions so they can look for areas where HENDRICKS can get away with using.

They just want to prove that the testing that they have proposed is more thorough...

Why ask questions if you know your going to be clean?

 

[shonuf]

hmmm whats worse... Wanting to know what exactly you're being tested for or refusing to do tests and crying about it?

All that needs to be known is that GSP is willing to do both VADA and WADA while hendricks doesn't seem to want to do either..

that's not true. Johny said this week he wants Wada. He's the one that asked for Wada.

 

[HiMyNameIs***]

that's not true. Johny said this week he wants Wada. He's the one that asked for Wada.

Yeah, Hendricks said he didn't sign up for VADA because GSPs camp were being sketchy about the whole situation

 

[zuffazombee]

The whole thing is super sketchy on GSPs part imo. No wonder Johny Hendricks hasn't signed up yet

GSP agreed to any & all tests. How is that "shady"???

If you look into this "controversy" you'll see that Hendricks is the one who's refusing to additional testing.

GSP suggested VADA (& offered to cover the costs for both fighters). Hendricks agreed then changed his mind & refused to enroll in the program.

GSP has already undergone at least one unannounced test.

Hendricks then suggested WADA. The emails in the OP outline the conversation concerning this option. The last email is GSP's acceptance of the Hendricks' offer.

Hendricks & his camp then backed out & said Johnny will not undergo any voluntary testing.

Tell me again how GSP is the one who looks "shady" in this situation??

 

[getfitdoc]

Basically, Neither fighter, nor their camps, really knew what was going on. Both good dudes IMO.

Interesting to see how all this stuffs actually works. Ramsom Testing is expensive! 20k per fight per card for randomized thorough tests. This would cost $200,000k per 10 fight card.

 

[MMA]

Don't see how this makes GSP look bad; at the end he says he'll do whatever Hendricks does and VADA to boot.

 

[King of Fists]

It`s kind of weird. Maybe I`m naive but before this whole VADA/WADA thing I assumed GSP was clean. Now after him acting shady and seeing the HGH gut pics floating about I actually suspect him of PED use.

 

[Perrichet]

Yeah, Hendricks said he didn't sign up for VADA because GSPs camp were being sketchy about the whole situation

GSP's camp were being sketchy by doing what exactly? Whatever it was, it didn't stop Hendricks from agreeing with VADA testing.

Quiet obvious what this thread was designed for though

 

[KyouLose]

im not usually one to say TLDR, but...

 

[beef-fire]

We spoke with Georges today and he took his decision so for your information, Georges has decided that if Johny Hendricks does not want to do VADA and prefers your proposed enhanced steroid and drug testing by the Nevada Athletic Commission, Georges will also do it, in addition to VADA.

All that matters in the end.

 

[Ecker707]

can johnny come in .9lbs over? will 170.6, or 170.9 be considered 170? Greace Sketch P

 

[I Hate You]

The whole thing is super sketchy on GSPs part imo. No wonder Johny Hendricks hasn't signed up yet

EXACTLY! GSP just muddied the waters even more surrounding him with regards to use of banned substances. VERY sketchy indeed. Hendricks has handled it like a champ so far. Maybe he's getting ready for his new role?

 

[FedorStMcGregor**]

that's not true. Johny said this week he wants Wada. He's the one that asked for Wada.

Yeah cause VADA has a bad reputation right? Hendricks' excuse is retarded.. "I heard VADA is shady", Ariel asks from who and he says "my management" ..

There is nothing wrong with VADA.

 

[Lanshire]

Never really thought GSP was using PEDs, and I'm still doubtful he does, but the more info comes out, the more his camp looks suspicious. The nuthuggers will never see that though.

 

[Glen S]

The whole thing is super sketchy on GSPs part imo. No wonder Johny Hendricks hasn't signed up yet

You fuckin guys are still reaching up that tree are ya? Fucking guy has been tested more than anyone and never failed....go find hoffa behind the grassy knoll their mulder

 

[BJ@LW&WW]

sounds like management.

 

[Free_MMAson]

Yeah and when to cycle off.

Why would it make a difference unless you thought that you might fail a test for a particular substance at a particular time?

Yes when to cycle off is also one of the 100 reasons to ask. Seems you've already made up your mind. Only thing is GSP started VADA weeks ago while Hendricks has yet to sign on, so who has the advantage here in terms of more time to cycle off?

 

[Glen S]

This is why i cant stand GSP. Everyone knows youve roided in the past and still are on PEDs but he desperately seeks the approval of others and especially a media. GSP is a robot and complete business man. This whole drug testing with Hendricks is stupid and pointless.

Yep an he has been caught so many times on countless tests....oh wait....

 

[zuffazombee]

Courtesy, SBNation:

Georges St-Pierre and Johny Hendricks are two fighters on the same page yet can’t seem to agree. Both the UFC welterweight champion and No. 1 contender have stated an intention to help clean up the sport’s reputation by proving they are clean, yet through misunderstandings and incomprehension, they remain at odds over just how to do it.

This all began in July when St-Pierre, on his own dime, invited Hendricks to participate in testing with VADA, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association, a non-profit Nevada-basedgroup that has made inroads mostly in boxing. In 2012, however, both B.J. Penn and Rory MacDonald enrolled in VADA and passed all their tests prior to meeting in the octagon. Through media interviews at the time, Hendricks initially agreed. St-Pierre’s participation, however, would make him the biggest MMA name to take part in VADA, and it seems as if over time, that has drawn some red flags from Hendricks’ side, which has suggested that the relationship between VADA and GSP may not be on the up and up. Theirevidence? Two things.

For one, his manager Ted Ehrhardt claimed that he’d discovered VADA is paying for St-Pierre’s test. For the other, there was a picture of St-Pierre on the VADA website. Using that as their ammunition, Hendricks called the situation “a little suspect” and believes it denotes favoritism towards the champion.

Hendricks is of course free to feel however he likes,but atleast partof his belief system regarding the St-Pierre/VADA link is untrue, VADA president and board chairman Dr. Margaret Goodman told FOX Sports on Tuesday. “We have had no relationship with GSP other than his contacting us to test both fighters and explain our program in great detail,” said Goodman.

Goodman, a neurologist and former Nevada state athletic commission chief ringside physician, also told FOX Sports that VADA never offered to test either fighter for free, that St-Pierre’s camp offered to pay for both fighters, and that Hendricks, too, would have appeared on the site if he joined the program, the same way all participating fighters have in the past. The confusion between the two sides may stem from the early days of exploring the possibility of using VADA.

According to Goodman, on July 2 —more than four months prior to their UFC 167 bout — St-Pierre’s trainer Firas Zahabi originally contacted the organization to ask for price quotes on the testing. Because program costs depend on the length of the program and location of the fighters, Goodman quoted him the price of $10,000 per fighter. Since St-Pierre was to be paying for both himself and the challenger, it would have cost him $20,000 total. However, at the time, the organization, which has helped to fund testing in the past, offered to subsidize $2,500 per each fighter, so it would have cost GSP $15,000 total, or $7,500 per fighter. However, Goodman said, weeks passed without applications from either St-Pierre or Hendricks.

During that time, the sides also spoke with the Nevada state athletic commission, which will regulate the Las Vegas event, about adding additional random testing. Hendricks, feeling uncomfortable with the VADA proposal, said he wanted to be tested by WADA, the World Anti-Doping Agency. That, however, is impossible. WADA does not test athletes; they monitor the fight against drugs in sport through policy but they do not test. Instead, they accredit labs to carry out testing to their rigid standards and procedures.

Now here’s the rub: VADA does not do testing either. They use the same WADA-approved labs as Hendricks is asking for. So whether St-Pierre and Hendricks were being tested through VADA or the additional out-of-testing, NSAC program, their samples were going to end up in the same place: a WADA-accredited lab. VADA never touches the sample; it is only a facilitator.

On Aug. 29, St-Pierre quietly applied for VADA testing. Because the time scope had changed from the original early July estimate, the cost was adjusted to $8,000. According to Goodman, VADA no longer had the funds to subsidize the program, so St-Pierre paid the entire fee for himself. He will be tested randomly and periodically for the next months. Despite his original agreement, Hendricks, however, never applied, choosing to stick solely with NSAC testing. “We are happy that Mr. Hendricks is so vocal for clean sport and of course, wish him the best,” Goodman said. “VADA is voluntary, and we believeno inferenceshould bemadeifa fighter doesn't wish to participate.”

 

[milliniar]

Vada is just as legit as WADA, or USADA. so to anyone saying it's sketchy that he was asking more questions understand its a managament issue GSP probably didn't even know this lawyer/management doing this. he probably just asked whats the difference and then they did all this without him knowing.

And i could be wrong maybe he did ask all of that, who knows. no one will ever know.
one thing we do know GSP is already doing VADA testing.

VADA and USADA test by the WADA standard.