Guccifer2.0 identified as an officer of Russia’s military intelligence directorate (GRU)

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EXCLUSIVE: ‘Lone DNC Hacker’ Guccifer 2.0 Slipped Up and Revealed He Was a Russian Intelligence Officer
Robert Mueller’s team has taken over the investigation of Guccifer 2.0, who communicated with (and was defended by) longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone.


Guccifer 2.0, the “lone hacker” who took credit for providing WikiLeaks with stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee, was in fact an officer of Russia’s military intelligence directorate (GRU), The Daily Beast has learned. It’s an attribution that resulted from a fleeting but critical slip-up in GRU tradecraft.

That forensic determination has substantial implications for the criminal probe into potential collusion between President Donald Trump and Russia. The Daily Beast has learned that the special counsel in that investigation, Robert Mueller, has taken over the probe into Guccifer and brought the FBI agents who worked to track the persona onto his team.

While it’s unclear what Mueller plans to do with Guccifer, his last round of indictments charged 13 Russians tied to the Internet Research Agency troll farm with a conspiracy “for the purpose of interfering with the U.S. political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016.” It was Mueller’s first move establishing Russian interference in the election within a criminal context, but it stopped short of directly implicating the Putin regime.

Mueller’s office declined to comment for this story. But the attribution of Guccifer 2.0 as an officer of Russia’s largest foreign intelligence agency would cross the Kremlin threshold—and move the investigation closer to Trump himself.

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Guccifer 2.0 sprang into existence on June 15, 2016, hours after a report by a computer security firm forensically tied Russia to an intrusion at the Democratic National Committee. In a series of blog posts and tweets over the following seven months—conspicuously ending right as Trump took office and not resuming—the Guccifer persona published a smattering of the DNC documents while gamely projecting an image as an independent Romanian hacktivist who’d breached the DNC on a lark. As Stone’s Breitbart piece demonstrated, Guccifer provided Moscow with a counter-narrative for the election interference.

Guccifer famously pretended to be a “lone hacker” who perpetrated the digital DNC break-in. From the outset, few believed it. Motherboard conducted a devastating interview with Guccifer that exploded the account’s claims of being a native Romanian speaker. Based on forensic clues in some of Guccifer’s leaks, and other evidence, a consensus quickly formed among security experts that Guccifer was completely notional.

“Almost immediately various cyber security companies and individuals were skeptical of Guccifer 2.0 and the backstory that he had generated for himself,” said Kyle Ehmke, an intelligence researcher at the cyber security firm ThreatConnect. “We started seeing these inconsistencies that led back to the idea that he was created hastily… by the individual or individuals that affected the DNC compromise.”

Proving that link definitively was harder. Ehmke led an investigation at ThreatConnect that tried to track down Guccifer from the metadata in his emails. But the trail always ended at the same data center in France. Ehmke eventually uncovered that Guccifer was connecting through an anonymizing service called Elite VPN, a virtual private networking service that had an exit point in France but was headquartered in Russia.

But on one occasion, The Daily Beast has learned, Guccifer failed to activate the VPN client before logging on. As a result, he left a real, Moscow-based Internet Protocol address in the server logs of an American social media company, according to a source familiar with the government’s Guccifer investigation. Twitter and WordPress were Guccifer 2.0’s favored outlets. Neither company would comment for this story, and Guccifer did not respond to a direct message on Twitter.

Working off the IP address, U.S. investigators identified Guccifer 2.0 as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency’s headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow. (The Daily Beast’s sources did not disclose which particular officer worked as Guccifer.)
https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclu...telligence-officer?source=twitter&via=desktop

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Just came to post this. Remind me, how did this go again?
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This was actually my most comprehensive single post on the topic:
http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/129737527/
That's not entirely accurate, but yes, I understand these tools, I'm a low-level grey hat hacker. You sound like one of those people who whines, "Even morons can carry out a DDoS attack." You ever been on the TPB? There's loads of adults out there who can't even figure out how to fucking overwrite an .exe file to a program path. Even a "child" has to build a botnet.
The last time I went over this because of Susan Rice (link to direct post here that Cliffs most of my postings from 2016 on the matter)

Russia is the source of many of these tools (although nobody's gonna bore themselves with their kid shit now that the CIA's tools are out there). The fact that you would even mention the original Guccifer just demonstrates that you have no material understanding of what is going on here. The techniques used by Guccifer were radically different than the actual hacking tools applied by Guccifer 2.0. I weary of expounding on this. I urge any who are genuinely curious to pour through these quite exhaustive analyses. The "sloppy hacktivist" narrative had already collapsed last summer:

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If you read every single linked article and post and still entertain the notion that this wasn't Russia, then you are beyond my help.


A lot of cans not around to hear...
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I can still remember the numerous arguments had on this board pre-election about this subject. All of the "who cares what the source is?" arguments and the "Why should we suspect manipulation?" people.

The unfortunate part is that they're probably still sticking their heads in the sands. I think the new mantra is "Who cares that we were blatantly manipulated and that we were too gullible to question it. Hypothetically Hillary would have been worse, even as Trump basically does everything we claimed we wanted no part of."
 
So Gucci is a confirmed “Russian” but what is his ethnicity? I want to know if he’s Russian-Russian or a Ukrainian, Tatar, Jew, etc
 
So many people are going to go to so much jail.
 
I can still remember the numerous arguments had on this board pre-election about this subject. All of the "who cares what the source is?" arguments and the "Why should we suspect manipulation?" people.

The unfortunate part is that they're probably still sticking their heads in the sands. I think the new mantra is "Who cares that we were blatantly manipulated and that we were too gullible to question it. Hypothetically Hillary would have been worse, even as Trump basically does everything we claimed we wanted no part of."
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Does anyone here know anyone who trumpeted the line about not caring about the source but has changed their mind? Is there anyone here who feels that way?
 
Even the wormiest of worms in the Trump orbit are going to have difficulty at the end of all this.
 
Does anyone here know anyone who trumpeted the line about not caring about the source but has changed their mind? Is there anyone here who feels that way?

They would never admit it. But most of them proved hypocrite when all those leaks were coming out the Trump administration and they refused to accept the information because the leakers were trying to paint Trump in a bad light. A mere handful of months after saying the opposite about the motives with Hillary.

@Rational Poster's gif sums it up nicely. Bunch of people without principles.
 
So... Daily Beast is an acceptable source for lefty posters on here now?
 
So... Daily Beast is an acceptable source for lefty posters on here now?

I think people are taking this seriously for multiple reasons and one of those is Rosenstein’s announcement tomorrow about cyber.
 
They would never admit it. But most of them proved hypocrite when all those leaks were coming out the Trump administration and they refused to accept the information because the leakers were trying to paint Trump in a bad light. A mere handful of months after saying the opposite about the motives with Hillary.

@Rational Poster's gif sums it up nicely. Bunch of people without principles.

Ya I’m just curious...I know people who fully bought in to trump who have turned on him now. None of them even seem willing to accept they got used.

I give major props to anyone who jumps off the trump train for any reason, but anyone who is willing to admit to being fooled and that they’ve changed their opinion since then would get my utmost respect.
 
The fbi was never given permission to examine the dnc servers, this article says an outside security firm came to that conclusion . An outside firm hired by the dnc if I remember correctly
 
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