GSP should fight Anderson or no one at MW agree or disagree and why?

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  1. BringBackTRTforFairness Green Belt

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    He doesnt have what it takes to finish Bisbing, hes too strong and big the wrestling wont work so well.

    Too good at striking

    Too long ranged - GSP is used to having the range advantage due to his long arms, not anymore vs a big guy

    Too fresh while GSP is rusty

    Too smart - hes no genius but hes plenty smart enough to train and fight in a way that nullifies GSPs potential advantages and capitalize on his weaknesses, for example boosting his strength with weights and not falling for the Chin bait ie just striking in a way that doesn't get you taken down as easily

    With Anderson silva he stands a better chance as he is a little weaker GSP may be able to man handle him, vulnerable to take downs, chinny, although hes still very very dangerous but the whole point is he is the big prize to beat even as a champion Bisping is not as good historically as Anderson Silva so its a big risk for less reward than if it was Anderson
     
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    So... He shouldn't fight Bisping because you think he'll lose?

    Sounds like you scared TS.
     
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  3. GSP1978 Blue Belt

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    Why would GSP want to fight Silva now? Silva has looked awful against Brunson and failed a PED test.

    That fight would lower GSP's brand or value and put him on the level with Shamrock vs. Gracie.

    If GSP gets whipped by Bisping, fine. He came out of retirement and tested himself. Not only that, he tested himself for the belt against a decent draw at MSG.

    Until McGregor returns GSP is the only relatively big draw in the UFC. We will find out if he can sell PPV's in 6 weeks.
     
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    its like the stock market:

    Anderson has been written off.
    Bisping is the champion of the world.

    Bisping fight is absolutely more rewarding
     
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    Lol. Extra points for GSP's "stock market" reference.
     
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    It's a no brainer.

    One man has the title and if GSP was ever going to fight for the MW title, this would be the time to do it. It sure as hell wasn't going to be when Silva was champ.
     
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    There are certainly reasons for both fights TS and both would sell.

    But from a legacy standpoint there is no way GSP cannot grab the MW title shot once it is offered. If he adds the MW title to his resume. regardless of how many today will hate how he got that shot, in years to come when analysts discuss the greats that will almost certainly put GSP at the head of the GOAT talks for most.

    There is a reason why Anderson wanted Forrest as an EX LHW champ as that has been one of the biggest points for his fans to trumpet when talking about his legacy.

    There is a reason why prime Aldo said yes to a fight with Sherk at LW but no to one with FLorian, which prompted Florian to move down instead saying Aldo was scarred of him. Aldo was not scared, he just did not see the high reward value in fighting Florian at LW at that point if he was not going to make a LW run but to jump up for a single fight and beat an ex LW Champ wold have that same appeal as Forrest did for Anderson. His fans could talk up the relevance of Sherk, like they do Forrest.

    These guys are all very strategic when it comes to the value and risk/reward of any given 'super type fight'. That MW belt has massive legacy value to GSP.
     
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    I'd like to see GSP fight Anderson after his fight with Bisping. Sure this Battle of Legends would be years late, but call me sentimental
     
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  9. kungfu_taichi White Belt

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    Disagree.

    1) It's a title fight. Win, obvious. Lose, built in excuse. So either way, GSP is saleable in 2nd fight of contract
    2) If win, Whitaker is a small middleweight, if lose there's always TWood
    3) Anderson Silva vs GSP was a superfight five years ago. Now it's an old man fight. So let it be in 2022 in Bellator.
    4) I hear Adalaide Byrd isn't busy. She could ref GSP-Bisping and we're guaranteed a rematch.
    5) Condit rematch
    6) Diaz rematch
    7) GSP-Conor

    GSP has a four fight contract. Anderson Silva is simply not one of the four options that make everybody the most money.
     
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    Anderson's stock has crashed, so no.
     
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    If GSP does manage to beat Bisping and does not instantly re-retire (which would be the smart move) and he does still have the urge to fight I would not mind seeing him and Anderson either. As you say, years late, yes, but still intriguing.

    However if GSP still does truly have that urge to continue fighting the fight after Bisping that would make the most sense would be Conor at LW for the LW title if Conor still holds that belt and GSP really thinks he could make that weight.

    If GSP called out Conor for a LW showdown immediately after beating Bisping it would not matter if it would take 12 month or even more for GSP to shed some muscle and get ready for that fight. As angry as it would make many MMA purists (GSP not defending MW title and COnor holding up LW title again) it would be the biggest money fight MMA could ever put on. MMA's closest version of Mayweather/MCGregor and likely to do well over 2MM views IMO.

    it would be promoted as the WW and MW Champ, GSP fighting the FW and LW champ, Conor. Both guys who walked away from their lower belts without a defeat and who now hold the higher belts. The rage from many purists would be epic but that is the fight that would make the most sense to the promotion and to both fighters focused on paydays.
     
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    Anderson Silva is no longer so relevant. GSP wants the titles and big fights.
     
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  13. FlyingDropKick Bruce Lee Style

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    GSP was a champion when he retired so he should come back and fight for a belt. He wants to step up and challenge himself and Anderson Silva isn't the talking point he was and that's no longer a super fight. I don't know why people think GSP has no chance against Bisping. Most of his career as champion he beat everyone at their own game. If they were a wrestler, he out wrestled them, if they were a striker, he out struck them.

    On top of that if you think he could beat Anderson then he has a higher chance of beating Bisping than you credit him for because if you look back at the Silva/Bisping fight, the only reason Anderson lost was because he didn't follow-up after he basically knocked him out and they were in England, and Bisping always gets the decision there. There have been multiple fights he should have lost but because they were in the UK he got the judges decision. Bisping is a paper champion.
     
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