GSP is boring.. how was he ever PPV king?

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So.... Don't watch any of his title defenses. So... They were all boring?
 
Burning Hammer said:
He wasn't. His biggest draw was Brock Lesnar destroying Mir.

As for pre Serra 1, he wasn't drawing shit until 100 when Brock gave him the rub.
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What are you smoking? Look at GSP's #'s compared to everyone else. FYI GSP vs Hughes 3 did more PPV buys than Lesnar vs Mir 1 and it was before it....so I don't know what you're talking about. The GSP vs Fitch / Lesnar vs. Herring card actually did less than GSP's title victory over Hughes ...so again, you're just wrong


09/22/2007 UFC 76 Liddel v. Jardine 475,000
10/20/2007 UFC 77 Franklin v. Silva II 325,000
11/17/2007 UFC 78 Evans v. Bisbing 325,000
12/29/2007 UFC 79 GSP v. Hughes III 650,000 (after getting Ko'd by Serra still did more than Lesnar debut and the card he was on Lesnar with against Fitch)
01/19/2008 UFC 80 Penn v. Stevenson 225,000
02/02/2008 UFC 81 Sylvia/Nog, Lesnar/Mir 600,000
03/01/2008 UFC 82 Silva v. Henderson 325,000
04/19/2008 UFC 83 GSP v. Serra 530,000
05/24/2008 UFC 84 Penn v. Sherk 475,000
06/07/2008 UFC 85 Hughes v. Alves 215,000
07/05/2008 UFC 86 Griffin v. Jackson 540,000
07/19/2008 Affliction Banned Fedor v. Sylvia 100,000
08/09/2008 UFC 87 GSP / Lesnar 625,000
09/06/2008 UFC 88 Liddell v. Evans 480,000
10/25/2008 UFC 90 Silva v. Cote 300,000
11/15/2008 UFC 91 Lesnar v. Couture 1,010,000
12/27/2008 UFC 92 Griffin v. Evans 1,000,000
01/17/2009 UFC 93 Franklin v. Henderson 350,000
01/24/2009 Affliction DOR Fedor v. Arlovski 90,000
01/31/2009 UFC 94 GSP v. Penn II 920,000
03/07/2009 UFC 96 Jackson v. Jardine 350,000
04/18/2009 UFC 97 Silva v. Leites 650,000
05/23/2009 UFC 98 Evans v. Machida 635,000
06/13/2009 UFC 99 Franklin v. Silva 360,000
07/11/2009 UFC 100 Lesnar v. Mir 1,600,000
08/08/2009 UFC 101 Penn v. Florian 850,000
08/29/2009 UFC 102 Couture v. Nogueira 435,000
09/19/2009 UFC 103 Franklin v. Belfort 375,000
10/24/2009 UFC 104 Machida v. Rua 500,000
11/21/2009 UFC 106 Ortiz v. Griffin II 375,000
12/12/2009 UFC 107 Penn v. Sanchez 620,000
01/02/2010 UFC 108 Evans vs. Silva 300,000
02/06/2010 UFC 109 Couture vs. Coleman 275,000
02/21/2010 UFC 110 Nogueria v. Velasquez 240,000
03/27/2010 UFC 111 GSP vs. Hardy 770,000 (UFC was slowly dying as u guys put it here, GSP comes in and saves the UFC from Death)
04/10/2010 UFC 112 Silva vs. Maia 500,000
04/24/2010 WEC 48 Aldo vs. Faber 175,000
05/08/2010 UFC 113 Machida vs. Rua 520,000
05/29/2010 UFC 114 Evans vs. Jackson 1,000,000
06/12/2010 UFC 115 Liddell vs. Franklin 525,000
07/03/2010 UFC 116 Lesnar vs. Carwin 1,060,000
08/07/2010 UFC 117 Silva vs. Sonnen 600,000
08/28/2010 UFC 118 Edgar vs. Penn 2 535,000
09/25/2010 UFC 119 Mir vs. Cro Cop 295,000
10/23/2010 UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez 900,000
11/20/2010 UFC 123 Jackson vs. Machida 500,000
12/11/2010 UFC 124 GSP vs. Koscheck 785,000
01/01/2011 UFC 125 Edgar vs. Maynard II 260,000
02/05/2011 UFC 126 Silva vs. Belfort 725,000
02/27/2011 UFC 127 Penn vs. Fitch 260,000
03/19/2011 UFC 128 Shogun vs. Jones 490,000
04/30/2011 UFC 129 GSP vs. Shields 800,000
05/28/2011 UFC 130 Rampage vs. Hamill 325,000
06/11/2011 UFC 131 Dos Santos vs. Carwin 330,000
07/02/2011 UFC 132 Cruz vs. Faber 320,000
08/06/2011 UFC 133 Evans vs. Ortiz 310,000
08/27/2011 UFC 134 Silva vs. Okami 335,000
09/24/2011 UFC 135 Jones vs. Rampage 520,000
10/08/2011 UFC 136 Edgar vs. Maynard III 225,000
10/29/2011 UFC 137 Penn vs. Diaz 280,000
11/19/2011 UFC 139 Henderson vs. Rua 290,000
12/10/2011 UFC 140 Jones vs. Machida 480,000
12/31/2011 UFC 141 Lesnar vs. Overeem 535,000
01/14/2012 UFC 142 Aldo vs Mendes 215,000
02/04/2012 UFC 143 Condit vs. Diaz 400,000
02/26/2012 UFC 144 Edgar vs. Henderson 325,000
04/21/2012 UFC 145 Jones vs. Evans 700,000
05/26/2012 UFC 146 Dos Santos vs. Mir 560,000
06/23/2012 UFC 147 W. Silva vs. Franklin II 140,000
07/07/2012 UFC 148 Silva vs. Sonnen II 925,000
07/21/2012 UFC 149 Faber vs. Barao 230,000
08/11/2012 UFC 150 Henderson v. Edgar II 190,000
09/01/2012 UFC 151 Jones vs. Henderson Canceled
09/22/2012 UFC 152 Jones vs. Belfort 450,000
10/13/2012 UFC 153 Silva vs. Bonnar 410,000
11/17/2012 UFC 154 GSP vs. Condit 700,000
12/29/2012 UFC 155 JDS vs. Velasquez II 590,000
02/02/2013 UFC 156 Aldo vs Edgar 330,000
02/23/2013 UFC 157 Rousey vs Carmouche 450,000
03/16/2013 UFC 158 GSP vs Diaz 950,000
 
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Haha. The ufc convinced clowns that “rounds won” is the most important stat in mma..also those clowns tried to convince people that 50-45 was more conclusive than a finish

Hahahaha. I laugh only because I never went with it but boy it was a thing here
 
MCGREGOR 49-1 said:
Watching some of GSP's old fights.. just wondering why he was ever popular? The majority of his fights go to decisions (all of his last 7 fights went to decision), he got beaten by a midget Matt Serra and he doesn't know how to trash talk. Why did people ever like the guy? Was it just because he was Canadian?
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It’s called pure dominance. Serra was a fluke and gsp damn near killed him in the rematch it was so bad. GSP almost never even lost rounds let alone fights. MM is the only fighter with his dominance.
 
DaGenius said:
Haha. The ufc convinced clowns that “rounds won” is the most important stat in mma..also those clowns tried to convince people that 50-45 was more conclusive than a finish

Hahahaha. I laugh only because I never went with it but boy it was a thing here
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So your saying Anderson’s win over Chael was better, more dominant and “conclusive” than GSP over Fitch.
 
MCGREGOR 49-1 said:
Watching some of GSP's old fights.. just wondering why he was ever popular? The majority of his fights go to decisions (all of his last 7 fights went to decision), he got beaten by a midget Matt Serra and he doesn't know how to trash talk. Why did people ever like the guy? Was it just because he was Canadian?
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Boy, it's a good thing this thread has never been done before. Your originality is mind-blowing.
 
He also carried cards simply by himself.

Didn't Struve and that dude that tapped up co main the koscheck or hardy fight.
 
Kvolcom said:
What are you smoking? Look at GSP's #'s compared to everyone else. FYI GSP vs Hughes 3 did more PPV buys than Lesnar vs Mir 1 and it was before it....so I don't know what you're talking about. The GSP vs Fitch / Lesnar vs. Herring card actually did less than GSP's title victory over Hughes ...so again, you're just wrong


09/22/2007 UFC 76 Liddel v. Jardine 475,000
10/20/2007 UFC 77 Franklin v. Silva II 325,000
11/17/2007 UFC 78 Evans v. Bisbing 325,000
12/29/2007 UFC 79 GSP v. Hughes III 650,000 (after getting Ko'd by Serra still did more than Lesnar debut and the card he was on Lesnar with against Fitch)
01/19/2008 UFC 80 Penn v. Stevenson 225,000
02/02/2008 UFC 81 Sylvia/Nog, Lesnar/Mir 600,000
03/01/2008 UFC 82 Silva v. Henderson 325,000
04/19/2008 UFC 83 GSP v. Serra 530,000
05/24/2008 UFC 84 Penn v. Sherk 475,000
06/07/2008 UFC 85 Hughes v. Alves 215,000
07/05/2008 UFC 86 Griffin v. Jackson 540,000
07/19/2008 Affliction Banned Fedor v. Sylvia 100,000
08/09/2008 UFC 87 GSP / Lesnar 625,000
09/06/2008 UFC 88 Liddell v. Evans 480,000
10/25/2008 UFC 90 Silva v. Cote 300,000
11/15/2008 UFC 91 Lesnar v. Couture 1,010,000
12/27/2008 UFC 92 Griffin v. Evans 1,000,000
01/17/2009 UFC 93 Franklin v. Henderson 350,000
01/24/2009 Affliction DOR Fedor v. Arlovski 90,000
01/31/2009 UFC 94 GSP v. Penn II 920,000
03/07/2009 UFC 96 Jackson v. Jardine 350,000
04/18/2009 UFC 97 Silva v. Leites 650,000
05/23/2009 UFC 98 Evans v. Machida 635,000
06/13/2009 UFC 99 Franklin v. Silva 360,000
07/11/2009 UFC 100 Lesnar v. Mir 1,600,000
08/08/2009 UFC 101 Penn v. Florian 850,000
08/29/2009 UFC 102 Couture v. Nogueira 435,000
09/19/2009 UFC 103 Franklin v. Belfort 375,000
10/24/2009 UFC 104 Machida v. Rua 500,000
11/21/2009 UFC 106 Ortiz v. Griffin II 375,000
12/12/2009 UFC 107 Penn v. Sanchez 620,000
01/02/2010 UFC 108 Evans vs. Silva 300,000
02/06/2010 UFC 109 Couture vs. Coleman 275,000
02/21/2010 UFC 110 Nogueria v. Velasquez 240,000
03/27/2010 UFC 111 GSP vs. Hardy 770,000
04/10/2010 UFC 112 Silva vs. Maia 500,000
04/24/2010 WEC 48 Aldo vs. Faber 175,000
05/08/2010 UFC 113 Machida vs. Rua 520,000
05/29/2010 UFC 114 Evans vs. Jackson 1,000,000
06/12/2010 UFC 115 Liddell vs. Franklin 525,000
07/03/2010 UFC 116 Lesnar vs. Carwin 1,060,000
08/07/2010 UFC 117 Silva vs. Sonnen 600,000
08/28/2010 UFC 118 Edgar vs. Penn 2 535,000
09/25/2010 UFC 119 Mir vs. Cro Cop 295,000
10/23/2010 UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez 900,000
11/20/2010 UFC 123 Jackson vs. Machida 500,000
12/11/2010 UFC 124 GSP vs. Koscheck 785,000
01/01/2011 UFC 125 Edgar vs. Maynard II 260,000
02/05/2011 UFC 126 Silva vs. Belfort 725,000
02/27/2011 UFC 127 Penn vs. Fitch 260,000
03/19/2011 UFC 128 Shogun vs. Jones 490,000
04/30/2011 UFC 129 GSP vs. Shields 800,000
05/28/2011 UFC 130 Rampage vs. Hamill 325,000
06/11/2011 UFC 131 Dos Santos vs. Carwin 330,000
07/02/2011 UFC 132 Cruz vs. Faber 320,000
08/06/2011 UFC 133 Evans vs. Ortiz 310,000
08/27/2011 UFC 134 Silva vs. Okami 335,000
09/24/2011 UFC 135 Jones vs. Rampage 520,000
10/08/2011 UFC 136 Edgar vs. Maynard III 225,000
10/29/2011 UFC 137 Penn vs. Diaz 280,000
11/19/2011 UFC 139 Henderson vs. Rua 290,000
12/10/2011 UFC 140 Jones vs. Machida 480,000
12/31/2011 UFC 141 Lesnar vs. Overeem 535,000
01/14/2012 UFC 142 Aldo vs Mendes 215,000
02/04/2012 UFC 143 Condit vs. Diaz 400,000
02/26/2012 UFC 144 Edgar vs. Henderson 325,000
04/21/2012 UFC 145 Jones vs. Evans 700,000
05/26/2012 UFC 146 Dos Santos vs. Mir 560,000
06/23/2012 UFC 147 W. Silva vs. Franklin II 140,000
07/07/2012 UFC 148 Silva vs. Sonnen II 925,000
07/21/2012 UFC 149 Faber vs. Barao 230,000
08/11/2012 UFC 150 Henderson v. Edgar II 190,000
09/01/2012 UFC 151 Jones vs. Henderson Canceled
09/22/2012 UFC 152 Jones vs. Belfort 450,000
10/13/2012 UFC 153 Silva vs. Bonnar 410,000
11/17/2012 UFC 154 GSP vs. Condit 700,000
12/29/2012 UFC 155 JDS vs. Velasquez II 590,000
02/02/2013 UFC 156 Aldo vs Edgar 330,000
02/23/2013 UFC 157 Rousey vs Carmouche 450,000
03/16/2013 UFC 158 GSP vs Diaz 950,000
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Maybe because he is a consummate professional, polite, respectful, and masterful tactician. His good looks and ripped physique that attracted a lot of casual female viewers to the sport didn't hurt either.
 
DaGenius said:
Haha. The ufc convinced clowns that “rounds won” is the most important stat in mma..also those clowns tried to convince people that 50-45 was more conclusive than a finish

Hahahaha. I laugh only because I never went with it but boy it was a thing here
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The most important stat in any sport is wins. Anyone who thinks otherwise has never done any sport.

For that matter, its also the most important stat in any war.

How you win is nice, but its a very distant second to winning. People who want to talk about how you won are usually people who lost and want to console themselves by saying they outplayed or outfought their opponent. But they'd rather have won.

I don't think GSP is at the top of wins in high level MMA (MM is I think, followed by Anderson), but he's near the top, so he's got to be considered an extremely successful fighters.
 
DaGenius said:
Haha. The ufc convinced clowns that “rounds won” is the most important stat in mma..also those clowns tried to convince people that 50-45 was more conclusive than a finish

Hahahaha. I laugh only because I never went with it but boy it was a thing here
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I don't think the UFC really did ever try to convince people of that fact. All I personally remember is the repetitive droning orders from Dana "Don't leave it in the hands of the judges!" Conversely, I think people (whilst they were constantly encouraged otherwise) actually appreciated pure skill... not only skill, but greatness. That's why GSP was such a big draw in his time.

Does no one remember the period leading up to a GSP fight? You were genuinely excited. Not because you thought you were going to witness a barn burner (we witnessed those on the undercards every week!) but because you were going to witness greatness!

Also... it's hard to convince clowns that "rounds won" is more important, when the guy actually lasted a record stretch without EVER losing a round. Remember that period when GSP literally never lost a round?? If you don't respect that achievement, you clearly don't remember how impressive it was within the context of the time.
 
The join date and username tell the entire story...
 
Majority of his fan base are either Canadian or still in the closet.


Or both.
 
In fights where GSP was not the defending UFC champion, his record is 14-1 with 10 finishes, or 15-1 with 11 finishes if you count the unification title match. Not boring in my books, but okay.

He made a rookie mistake in the first fight with Hughes, tapping with 1 second left in a round he easily would have won. He avenged that loss with two very definitive finishes.

He underestimated Matt Serra and paid the price for it. He also took his loss like a man, and praised Serra. He didn't make lame excuses or hide his face in a purple pillow. He also beat him savagely in the rematch, and I wouldn't be surprised if he cracked all of Serra's ribs on that side with those knees.

He fought smart and safe while defending his title many times. I don't think he'll lose any sleep over casuals not being excited while he counts his millions.
 
Looking at the list again, Rashad Evans is prolly the most underrated PPV draw in UFC history...I legit just realized it rn...he did get matched up with a lot of names but still...I hope he's living large rn cuz these #'s are huge


UFC 145 Jones vs. Evans 700,000
UFC 114 Evans vs. Jackson 1,000,000
UFC 98 Evans v. Machida 635,000
UFC 92 Griffin v. Evans 1,000,000
UFC 88 Liddell v. Evans 480,000


He headlined about 3 or 4 more PPV's as well. I hope he's worth millions cuz that's over 200 million dollars in PPV money just in those 5 events.
 
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