Greg Hardy's charges were dropped...

Yari said:
He sounds like a real asshole but what is the exact difference between him and Gustafsson? The latter was also a real piece of shit. Where do we draw a line in giving scumbags a second chance?
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Junkie bithches need to get checked once in a while! She was coked out and drunk, bitch deserved a beating and all she got was a couple of shoves and a bunch of money!!
 
snackgod said:
in north carloina after a bench trail you can appeal for a jury trial. the bench trail found him guilty.
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I assume like in other states you have to request the bench trial? So why would he be given a second trial, seems like everyone with money for a lawyer would ask for a bench trial then if they lose they have a second chance with a jury.
 
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campbecc said:
I assume like in other states you have to request the bench trial. So why would he be given a second trial, seems like everyone with money for a lawyer would ask for a bench trial then if they lose they have a second chance with a jury.
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I remember the legal guy on espn saying in nc there bench trial first and after you can appeal for the jury trial 2nd.
 
Kowboy Karl said:
I asked you for the link

He’s innocent until proven guilty.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...na-panthers-guilty-2-counts-domestic-violence

He was proven guilty and then it got thrown out after the fact.

Either way

Depressed people tend to commit suicide
Fat people tend to eat a lot

Men involved in domestic violence cases guilty or not guilty.... when the evidence is presented and something triggered the charge, like pictures witness statements etc... they tend to be controlling and lack accountability, I hope he’s not that and this was all a big misunderstanding. But that doesn’t seem to be the case based on the evidence and the findings in court.

Since he’s walking away Scott free I doubt he’s done any counseling and learned anything from the experience other than to be more emboldened in his lack of accountability.

men in these situations tend to have history repeat itself.

Hope I’m wrong and he goes on to great things and love a healthy life

but the violence is just a symptom of the controlling , angry , it’s always someone else’s fault type of dudes out there.

Tendencies
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Again, the evidence suggests that his story was accurate. From the police report to her not showing up to the full trial, he claimed he was restraining her and the damage coincides with that story. As big as he is, if he did truly beat her, she would have had more than a few bruises.
 
HunterAcosta said:
No ones using them as the moral barometer asshole. Im saying that his issues overshadowed his ability to play and still be a difference maker for a contender. Its about bottom line. What players have been banned for offending? Kap? That was a money situation bud. He affected their bottom line. damn, son, you must be a hardy dick rider. All good though. I dont give two shits about nfl moral clauses being right or wrong. But if the nfl union couldnt even protect the "innocent in court" hardy, then that shows you where he was at with them. When he got blackballed from the league, it wasnt even as much of a sjw league as it is now. Its all about their money son. and the ufc is so desperate for stars, theyll do a risky MONEY move,(not judging the morality of it, though I think its wrong to beat women) that will bite them. Unless you think ufc knows more about money than the nfl?
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You missed my point entirely. No matter how great a player you may be, if you offended the "great" lgbqtw's of America, the NFL would bench you or cut you. That doesn't fall in line with my morals but seems to line up perfectly with yours. So any PC issue or line that gets crossed will earn you the "moral ire" of the NFL. "Dick rider"? You are a pretty weak minded one, aren't you?
 
fatbino said:
was just going to say this myself.

Also dude keeps shifting the goalposts when people bust him for saying bullshit. Smdh
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pv3Hpv3p said:
This is literally all a lie.

I just watched the video, and she walked away and in the elevator by herself... he followed and didn't slip when he caught her "leaning in" with a clean uppercut
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fatbino said:
was just going to say this myself.

Also dude keeps shifting the goalposts when people bust him for saying bullshit. Smdh
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The trap was set. You rewatched the video and now I can pose my question:

What is the difference between a man getting in your face and defending yourself and a woman getting in your face? I want to hear a truly Politically Correct answer.

Mind you, I am an old fashioned, old school guy, who doesn't believe in violence against women for obvious reasons that are not considered politically correct but where do we draw the line on equality and the women's lib movement?
 
Goon Dog said:
I’m a Panthers season tix holder and followed this one pretty close. The case went to trial and Hardy was found guilty. He appealed but she could not be found for the 2nd trial. He was not found innocent or not guilty. The prosecutor couldn’t present the evidence without the victim’s testimony and so couldn’t pursue further. Local reports said he paid her off to disappear until charges were dismissed. He’s a bad guy but all the UFC sees is potential dollar signs when his HW roster is razor thin.
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He's a bad guy because the news tells you that he is, not because of the evidence. When you look at the pictures of her and know how big a guy he is, did she look "beat up" in those pictures or did the damage look like it occurred from his side of the story in which he says that he had to restrain her? Again, I have to reiterate that I am not for violence against women but I also have seen enough to know that rape and abuse can be greatly exaggerated.
 
magicmarker said:
People with TS's mindset make it very difficult for real victims trapped in abusive relationships to come forward; in addition to how difficult it is to go to court and have to see the abuser and everything else that goes along with the situation.

If that was your sister or daughter or friend in those pictures you might feel differently.
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You are taking evidence or the lack of evidence and making that "someone's mindset". PC warriors are out in force.
 
xMTDx said:
You're not saying it's ok to hit women? Many of your posts so far imply something different. Rice's actions are reprehensible. The majority of women who don't press charges or show at court do so from fear after being continually threatened. As soon as they and often their kids who they must also protect are free of the situation they just want to be done with it and far away from fear and stress. Then they somehow need steady income, housing, new schools for their kids, organising utility providers etc. All the while living with the fear of the person they left finding them or instigating some kind of revenge. A whole host of practical and financial shit as well as worse violence has to be considered which is why many stay until it is really bad. However as a social issue, providing abusers any grey area for them to not be accountable for their behaviour is enabling them and doesn't help create change for them or the break the cycle. I am sure I am going to called a libtard SJW snowflake or some shit but that's ok. After working in and around these sorts of services I'm confident in my understanding. Carry on, just wanted to add my opinion.
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Great post but you are missing my points. One, the evidence suggests that he did not "beat her" and that HE called the police. Second, is there a line that is drawn on equality between women and men? Are we equal or not? If a man attacks you and you beat him, that gains you respect, however, if a woman attacks you and you "lay one finger on her", you are an animal. To what extent are we considered equal, as men and women, and does that line ever blur?

I am not saying that it is "ok" to hit women and I am far from PC but the PC crowd gets riled horribly at the way guys, like myself, think and yet, we can't even agree on something this simple.
 
snackgod said:
north Carolina has a werid law that first u have a bench trial and if your found guilty u can them request a trial by jury. he was found guilty from that you do know that right.

Records of the legal proceedings have been sealed from the public. Holder, who originally worked with police, went silent, and prosecutors said they had "reliable information" that Holder and Hardy had reached a civil settlement and that she "intentionally made herself unavailable to the State."
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You do know that it was Hardy who called the police, right?
 
TrueFightFan said:
What the hell, Sherdog?! Do your damned homework. You swallowed the PC bullshit hook, line and sinker.

He was found guilty by a judge without a hearing, then when he requested a trial by jury where the girl would have to "testify under oath", she bailed and all charges were dropped.

I was appalled, just like everyone else was, when the story broke and when they released the photos of her "damage", I fully expected to see a girl with an exploded face. She had a few scratches and bruises that were in line with his story of having to restrain her after she was coked up and drunk. Just look at the size of that guy and the size of the girl... had he "beat her" she would have looked a lot worse than what she did. I see Sherdoggers on here saying that you should "never lay your hands on a woman" and I agree, unless that woman is trying to punch you, scratch yo or, hit you with something, then you have to restrain her. You might not have time to get the furry handcuffs or find a pillow to hit her with so you use your hands. Marks will be left on her body and in this day and age of the PC pansy ass bullshit, you will probably be arrested for "assault" until they sort out the mess, just like what happened with Hardy.

"but the news said..."

Come on, Sherdog.... you are better than that!
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No we aren’t.
 
BigDramaShow26 said:
The story lies somewhere between what you think and what others think. She definitely was coked up and drunk, and she attacked him. He responded. Whether or not he went too far is up to you. I think he lost it and went too far. I believe he threw her in the tub. I believe she also went after him too though.

The gun story im.not sure...
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and it was Hardy who called the police.
 
Sherdog - where we defend men who beat women.


Did the thread starter look at the photos of her injuries?
 
I agree, only PC people think bought in to these fake news. Same with Thiago Silva, he never beat up his girlfriend and threated her with a loaded weapon because she never testified!!!!!!

(/sarcasm)

TS is a complete idiot.
 
GordonMMARamsey said:
Sherdog - where we defend men who beat women.


Did the thread starter look at the photos of her injuries?
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Yes, and that is the main reason I changed my outlook on the case. I, originally, was mad as hell at Hardy. Then, you later find out that it was HIM who called the police and he claimed that he had to repeatedly restrain her. When I look at those photos, I see damage that coincides with his story. Had he never called the police, this would never have seen the light of day.
 
daniel san said:
I agree, only PC people think bought in to these fake news. Same with Thiago Silva, he never beat up his girlfriend and threated her with a loaded weapon because she never testified!!!!!!

(/sarcasm)

TS is a complete idiot.
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The original post was about some Sherdoggers being morons and not looking at the evidence but basing their opinion on the media spin. You have obviously not looked at the evidence.
 
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