Greatest of All Time has returned

Claude said:
It's still two banned substances lol

Also source?



You didn't answer my question :)

Those gifs are from 2 different fights btw.
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As a result from a chemical breaking down lol

He never got in any shit for greasing and like I've said plenty of times the head of the NSAC said he did nothing wrong

Go back to watching your idol fight 0-1 fighters kid
 
gspieler said:
Yes, the majority of non-casuals consider Fedor the GOAT.

You can post a poll among Sherdog, UG, among fighters, etc. Doesn't matter; outcome will still be the same.
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Like I said lol internet polls lol you're naive as hell kid

Anderson is GOAT based on opinion, skill, and accomplishments. Fedor is the GOAT HW, that's it.
 
Redhawks100 said:
As a result from a chemical breaking down lol

He never got in any shit for greasing and like I've said plenty of times the head of the NSAC said he did nothing wrong

Go back to watching your idol fight 0-1 fighters kid
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No source.
No answer.

You lose again my pupil.
 
Redhawks100 said:
Not greasing considering NSAC were ringside and said he did nothing wrong lol
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Well, let me put it to you like this. A cutman wipes vaseline on your brow right before you enter the cage. Anderson is clearly, undeniably taking that vaseline with his fingers and rubbing it on his arms and chest. I'm not sure if that's against the rules (opposed to GSP's corner bringing in their own vaseline in between rounds and rubbing it on him which is blatantly against the rules) but it is clear as day he did that.
 
JustOnce said:
The greatest of all time is returning.

With the impending return of the last emperor, and the poor recognition of the man and his accomplishments shown by the media, I wanted to add my two cents in.

1) First of all, he’s likely undefeated in Sherdog GOAT Polls.

But you may say, what do sherdoggers know about anything?

2) He wins polls elsewhere as well. Recently, there was a big GOAT poll in major Brazil media asking MMA fans, and Fedor came out on top. Also, there also was a big fighter’s poll in Brazil with lot of Brazilian fighters in it and Fedor also came out number 1 in that as well.

But you may also say again, who do fans know about anything when Dana White says otherwise?


3) He likely has the longest list of professional fighters who claimed him as the best, GOAT at one point or another, including Chuck fucking Norris and Mike Tyson.

There has been LOTS of other fighters who claimed so, and the list is very long and the saying that Fedor’s your favorite fighter’s favorite fighter isn’t actually untrue perhaps.

Some probably might say Anderson Silva. Yet, the guys who actually trained with Anderson, like Machida, Shogun, Wanderlei, JDS, etc thinks Fedor is the one. That must mean something.

But you may say, what do fighters know about anything?

4) There have been many well known trainers who have shown great respect and admiration for Fedor.

In recent Sherdog article for example, Firas Zahabi picked Fedor and Maia as two fighters who best adapted their grappling to MMA. Given how beastly Maia is as a grappler, it’s a high praise, as well as from many well known trainers like Greg Jackson, AKA’s Bob Cook/Vasquez, Pat Militech, even Kavanagh for example, and the list goes on.

But, you may also say, being experts doesn’t mean that they are right, when it comes to something that can be rather subjective, especially when ‘being great at something’ in and out of itself can be subjective matter.

5) Then, let’s try to look at the facts, which can be difficult when it comes to judging a ‘greatness’ of a fighter.

According to statistics that was available back then, which measured strikes landed against per minute, he was the most elusive fighter in MMA even better than Machida during Machida’s undefeated period, before his decline dropping three in a row .

He has gone undefeated in a heavyweight division for ten years, fighting aggressively and taking risks, fighting top fighters, and records show he fought many top 10 fighters, a couple less than GSP and Anderson fought in their careers

Only fighter Sakuraba declined to fight in his career.

Was offered the best contract ever to sign him over to UFC according to Dana White.

Dana White ‘says’ he thinks Fedor is no good.

He never competed in UFC. However, UFC is the top dog now, and I don’t like where Bellator is going at all, but I’d like to argue that UFC isn’t the major league of MMA, unless something can be major league of anything when they were the second best less than a decade ago. Even a fighter, who UFC comically pushes really hard as the Greatest of all time, Anderson Silva, said that he thought PRIDE was better when they were around than UFC, but then UFC only after the fall of PRIDE due to their yakuza scandal.

He has wins over ADCC champion, BJJ champ, three k-1 gp champions, Judo Olympic gold medalist and Olympic silver medalist, Greco-roman Olympic silver medalist and freestyle wrestling Olympian, ncaa div 1 folkstyle wrestling champ, Ssirm wrestling champion and multiple ex- UFC champions(who has more wins over ex ufc champions than Fedor?).

Arm-barred Judo Silva Olympic medalist, and threw Greco-roman Silver Olympic medalist with uchimata.

He’s multiple time combat sambo champion, though competition level of the sports has been called into question in the past, which is still rather unclear, in spite of great individual successes in MMA by guys like Fedor and Khabib.

Also, he is an elite Judoka, though it’s not a fact that’s as well known. He’s obviously not Yoel Romero of Judo, but I would dare say that the only fighter who is a clearly better Judoka than Fedor in the history of UFC would be Akiyama. It appears that he was a heavyweight Judoka in Russia in Olympic team competing for a spot, but it also appears he had to compete with Tamerlan Tmenov, silver and bronze olympic medalist, two time silver and two time bronze world championship winner, and Alexander Mikhaylin, three time world championship winner and two bronze, and silver olympic medalist. Tamerlan Tmenov is 39, Mikhaylin is 37, and Fedor is 40 years old. And between Tmenov and Mikhaylins, they have 13 European gold medals.

He is humble in and out of the ring, against the opponents and with fans as well from the sound of things.

He was recognized as the fighter of the decade by the Sports Illustrated, Bleacher report, Fight! Magazine, valetudo.ru, About.com, and MMAfighting.com, as well as his fight with Crocop being recognized as the fight of the decade by Yahoo sports and Sports Illustrated.

6) My own 2 cents>

I find his striking in MMA can look bit sloppy and wild, his footwork doesn’t look too fluid or varied, his positional bottom ground game looks relatively lacking, , and his takedown defense isn’t probably the best around, especially when he gets taken down, due to his aggressiveness, they are so in deep on his legs it’s almost impossible to defend from there, though he fought some amazing takedown artists,and his training camps…well I hope he’s not training in some random parking lot no more, maybe Mousasi had a point when he suggested that maybe his loyalty to his trainers kept him back from evolving.

But, he hits hard and fast, great reflexes, can take a hit, is explosive on the ground and the feet, can threaten with submissions and is difficult to catch with submissions, and calm as a cucumber and cold, calculated like some Russian industrial machine. He might be the best ever when it comes to mixing his strikes with takedowns of various types, and pounding someone’s face in inside their guard. And, this guy has the heart of the warrior, spirit of the samurai, and the blood of the cyborg.
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GSP, Silva, Jones.

Can't be GOAT outside of the UFC brah.
 
Huligani said:
Well, let me put it to you like this. A cutman wipes vaseline on your brow right before you enter the cage. Anderson is clearly, undeniably taking that vaseline with his fingers and rubbing it on his arms and chest. I'm not sure if that's against the rules (opposed to GSP's corner bringing in their own vaseline in between rounds and rubbing it on him which is blatantly against the rules) but it is clear as day he did that.
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Yes and Keith Kizer himself stated that he saw no wrongdoing. He's cage side.
 
JustBleed69 said:
GSP, Silva, Jones.

Can't be GOAT outside of the UFC brah.
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For what it's worth, during Fedor's run the PRIDE heavyweight division was far better than UFC's. And then he finished Tim Sylvia and Arlovski a bit later, who were the cream of the crop of UFC heavyweights during his reign. The ones he didn't fight were Couture, Barnett (never forgive Barnett for that), and I guess Lesnar.
 
Huligani said:
For what it's worth, during Fedor's run the PRIDE heavyweight division was far better than UFC's. And then he finished Tim Sylvia and Arlovski a bit later, who were the cream of the crop of UFC heavyweights during his reign. The ones he didn't fight were Couture, Barnett (never forgive Barnett for that), and I guess Lesnar.
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He's the HW GOAT for sure, just not the all-time GOAT. HW Division has always been the weakest division.
 
JustBleed69 said:
He's the HW GOAT for sure, just not the all-time GOAT. HW Division has always been the weakest division.
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someone started watching MMA near their join date
LOL

MW division was the weakest division in UFC while Tim Sylvia was the champ at HW. lol at Fedor below GSP, two dick pill users, and two runners
 
Redhawks100 said:
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/2/5...ve-made-anderson-silvas-leg-rehab-easier-than

I missed that part in your post you can

Why do you idolize a man that ducks entire organizations and fought 0-1 fighters, MWs, and LHWs in his prime?
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That article is entirely especulative you silly. Stop trying to make it pass as a fact.

"Another possibility is that these showed up in the blood, because Silva was taking a different substance entirely that may have included DHT or DHEA and when they break down in the blood, they turn into androstane and cause a positive test," Mohamadi said. "That would probably be my theory."

Note the word "theory".

Silva roided and tested positive for 2 banned to substances and it sure as hell wasn't due to dick pills from Thailand. He's a liar and a cheater.

Your loss has been sealed.

Cheers.
 
Claude said:
That article is entirely especulative you silly. Stop trying to make it pass as a fact.

"Another possibility is that these showed up in the blood, because Silva was taking a different substance entirely that may have included DHT or DHEA and when they break down in the blood, they turn into androstane and cause a positive test," Mohamadi said. "That would probably be my theory."

Note the word "theory".

Silva roided and tested positive for 2 banned to substances and it sure as hell wasn't due to dick pills from Thailand. He's a liar and a cheater.

Your loss has been sealed.

Cheers.
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Yes because I'm going to listen to a known Silva hater rather than a legitimate endocrinologist lol

You're a pathetic can that can't accept when you are wrong because of the extreme bitterness inside of you. You're angry that Anderson Silva is greater than Fedor ever was and ever will be.

Most accomplished fighter in MMA history that is still beating top fighters in the premier organization of the world while Fraudor was only successful in Japan and miraculously fell out of his prime immediately after he left the corrupt PED encouraging organization known as Pride. I mean even in his prime he was fighting garbage fighters like Fujita, Ogawa, HMC, and even a 0-1 fighter.

While Anderson lost earlier than Fedor, he came back much stronger and accomplished more than Fedor. What did Fedor do? He got smashed 3 times in a row and ran off back to Japan/Russia. Now he's back to fighting weak competition like he was used to.

You've lost, kid.
 
JustOnce said:
someone started watching MMA near their join date
LOL

MW division was the weakest division in UFC while Tim Sylvia was the champ at HW. lol at Fedor below GSP, two dick pill users, and two runners
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Fedor is an overrated product that you were duped into believing. Fought the weakest competition in a corrupt unsanctioned organization and then ran away when the going got tough (when he was easily stomped 3 times in a row)
 
Redhawks100 said:
Like I said lol internet polls lol you're naive as hell kid

Anderson is GOAT based on opinion, skill, and accomplishments. Fedor is the GOAT HW, that's it.
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Opinion?
In yours, sure, but not in the opinion of the majority of fans and fighters alike.

Skills?

Nope. Both other-worldly skilled, but Anderson was a MT specialist, with good bjj. Fedor was good everywhere...boxing, dirty boxing, GNP, guard, subs, transitions, etc. Anderson was more skilled at kickboxing range; Fedor was more skilled everywhere else.

Accomplishments?

Nope. I'd be curious what metric you use to quantify "accomplishments", but in any case, nope. Pride champ, Grand Prix winner, Rings champ, WAMMA champ, and 10 years undefeated at hw > dominant run as UFC mw champ.

HW GOAT?

Yep. And absolute one, as well. Anderson is the MW GOAT.
 
gspieler said:
Opinion?
In yours, sure, but not in the opinion of the majority of fans and fighters alike.

Skills?

Nope. Both other-worldly skilled, but Anderson was a MT specialist, with good bjj. Fedor was good everywhere...boxing, dirty boxing, GNP, guard, subs, transitions, etc. Anderson was more skilled at kickboxing range; Fedor was more skilled everywhere else.

Accomplishments?

Nope. I'd be curious what metric you use to quantify "accomplishments", but in any case, nope. Pride champ, Grand Prix winner, Rings champ, WAMMA champ, and 10 years undefeated at hw > dominant run as UFC mw champ.

HW GOAT?

Yep. And absolute one, as well. Anderson is the MW GOAT.
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Many fighters and fans consider Anderson to be the GOAT

Striking defense, great defensive grappling, pinpoint accuracy, power, great clinch, diverse standup, and unpredictable. Not to mention tough as shit. Prime Silva was the greatest we've seen in MMA yet.

HW has always been the worst division in MMA. The least developed weight class out of all MMA. Anderson holds the title defense record, most top wins in MMA history, and holds top 5 wins across 3 weight classes.
 
Redhawks100 said:
Yes because I'm going to listen to a known Silva hater rather than a legitimate endocrinologist lol

You're a pathetic can that can't accept when you are wrong because of the extreme bitterness inside of you. You're angry that Anderson Silva is greater than Fedor ever was and ever will be.

Most accomplished fighter in MMA history that is still beating top fighters in the premier organization of the world while Fraudor was only successful in Japan and miraculously fell out of his prime immediately after he left the corrupt PED encouraging organization known as Pride. I mean even in his prime he was fighting garbage fighters like Fujita, Ogawa, HMC, and even a 0-1 fighter.

While Anderson lost earlier than Fedor, he came back much stronger and accomplished more than Fedor. What did Fedor do? He got smashed 3 times in a row and ran off back to Japan/Russia. Now he's back to fighting weak competition like he was used to.

You've lost, kid.
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Lol at rationalizing Anderson's known PED use, while criticizing Fedor for your baseless implication that he was a user.

Also, lol at trying to claim your own victory at the end. Priceless.
 
Redhawks100 said:
Fedor is an overrated product that you were duped into believing. Fought the weakest competition in a corrupt unsanctioned organization and then ran away when the going got tough (when he was easily stomped 3 times in a row)
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are you married?

did Fedor run over your pregnant wife and your mother at the same time?

Why so much hate
 
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