Greatest American President?

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Who's the greatest american president?

  1. George Washington

  2. John Adams

  3. Thomas Jefferson

  4. James Madison

  5. James Monroe

  6. John Quincy Adams

  7. Andrew Jackson

  8. James K. Polk

  9. Abraham Lincoln

  10. Theodore Roosevelt

  11. Woodrow Wilson

  12. Franklin D. Roosevelt

  13. Harry S. Truman

  14. Dwight D. Eisenhower

  15. John F. Kennedy

  16. Lyndon B. Johnson

  17. Ronald Reagan

  18. Bill Clinton

  19. Barack Obama

  20. Other (specify)

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  1. Trotsky

    Trotsky Social Capitalist / Capitalistic Communist

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    I tend to agree, but if you don't have that much frame of historical reference, you can still base picking him off of his short-term feats and the fact that he was pretty objectively the best president since the 1970s.
     
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  2. Gregolian

    Gregolian .45 ACP Platinum Member

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    Wanted to vote Andrew Jackson to be an asshole but decided against it.
     
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  3. IGIT

    IGIT Black Belt

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    hiya Gregolian,

    Jackson used to get alot of traction, but now has fallen out of fashion due to that whole genocide-of-native-americans thing.

    - IGIT
     
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  4. Gregolian

    Gregolian .45 ACP Platinum Member

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    No shit.

    Want to know the greatest card to play in 'Cards Against Humanity' in response to "what are white people good at?"

    "Trail of Tears"
     
  5. cincymma79

    cincymma79 Red Belt

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    Contextual
    Are talking at the time? How do you argue against Jefferson or Washington
     
  6. SaiWa

    SaiWa Brown Belt

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    Washington or Lincoln. I went with Lincoln but it was more a less a flip of a coin IMO.
     
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  7. jaredmc16

    jaredmc16 Blue Belt

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    1. George Washington
    2. Donald Trump
     
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  8. IGIT

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    hi there cincymma79,

    contextual.

    yes, i think that's a point that some here are missing.

    this thread reminds me of different one which discussed the greatest welterweights. when i suggested that Royce Gracie deserves to be considered, i was met mostly by derision; stuff like "Tyrone Woodley would kill Royce".

    fair enough.

    what, exactly, would Jefferson have done to manage the Great Recession of 2009? how would Washington have dealt with the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs to other nations which had a radically lower standard of living and non-existant environmental protections?

    - IGIT
     
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  9. Ham Socks

    Ham Socks Professional Fighter

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    Obama
     
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  10. Tropodan

    Tropodan Red Belt Platinum Member

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    Lol, damn auto correct.
     
  11. KILL KILL

    KILL KILL Gold Belt

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    FDR (minus the internment camp snafu).
     
  12. Happiness

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    FDR (actually really Eleanor).

    Left is best my friends.
     
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  13. Rational Poster

    Rational Poster Scourge of the War Room

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    FDR has some accomplishments that are hard to top, but I always liked Ike too, just not quite as accomplished.
     
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  14. redwire

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    I don't know about the Greatest American President, but this is the Greatest American Hero:

     
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  15. Teen Wolf

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    Trump supporter who can’t read the OP?

    I am shocked.
     
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  16. Trotsky

    Trotsky Social Capitalist / Capitalistic Communist

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    I am curious, though, how you can simultaneously respect Teddy as the GOAT and like Trump...at all.

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    TRUMP - don't make fun of me! Fake news!



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    TRUMP - appointing corporate executives to destroy public programs, upwardly distributing money and power to corporations. Regulations are bad!!!!




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    TRUMP - privatizing more federal land than any president in history, deregulating polluters and expanding drilling of natural resources.



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    TRUMP - Big button! Rocket man! Fire and fury!!!!
     
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  17. Trotsky

    Trotsky Social Capitalist / Capitalistic Communist

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    @Tropodan, don't you agree that Teddy Roosevelt is perhaps the single most anti-Trump American president in United States history?

    I really can't think of a more glaring contrast, particularly on the areas of Environment vs. Corporations
     
  18. PrinceOfPain

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    George Washington has got to be one of history's greatest leaders.
     
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  19. Trotsky

    Trotsky Social Capitalist / Capitalistic Communist

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    Meh.

    I used to say that, but my history buff brother enlightened me otherwise. Great historical figure? Absolutely. Great military leader? Sure.

    But besides setting the stage for peaceful transfer of executive power -- an important thing no doubt -- he didn't really advance much in the way of policy and was instead more of a figurehead. So, as a political leader, he really doesn't have much place alongside FDR, Theodore Roosevelt, or his immediate successors in Madison, Monroe, and Jefferson, all of whom engaged in robust, tireless policy making.
     
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    If you studied history enough you'd know that time is relative. Trump can judge FDR, FDR can't judge Trump for obvious reasons.
     

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