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NAC be like....If he dies, he dies.
I'd like to know how a healthy athlete has 140 RESTING. He wasn't jumped in the Octagon by a doctor after fifteen rounds. My max after an hour of horrible bike cardio is 160 which drops almost instantly to 120 after stopping. Then goes down to 100 after a minute. Then to normal. I'm also 41.
Thanks man I was really wondering about that. Keep us updated.Just checked my bpm an hour after two hours of bjj, 76 resting. Not great but fine at 41.
Thanks man I was really wondering about that. Keep us updated.
I'm an old fuck as compared to these prime young athletes. Why are their pulses so high?
His BP is not well below normal. I do hundreds every week and there is nothing troubling about that BP. Maybe you have access to his medical records and you know what his baseline is?
It looks like the ufc needs medical professionals that are not under control by the UFC so they may treat in the best interest of the fighter opposed to the company. It was a shock to me seeing those vital signs before a fight and had this been before a military mission I would have pulled him out immediately. Just another reason IV hydration should be allowed for athletes. Its the fastest means of hydrating cells to include brain tissue.Agree.
If he was tested right after getting out of the sauna or exercising trying to cut that last pound, his heart rate would have been elevated too. It all depends when this was done. Sometimes it's just before they weigh in. This really could be just taken out of context depending when it was done.
I truly hope that is the case. If not, this is a grim situation. Even if the NSAC was on the fence and Lee pushed to be allowed to fight ( not saying that happened but it's a distinct possibility), the commission is there to be neutral and look out for the fighters.
Sorry, you're just wrong. 25 patients every day, at least once a shift, sometimes Q4 Q2 or every hour, for the past 8 years, I have taken well over 50,000 BP readings since I do ortho on everyone whether it's ordered or not. Not only am I right, the actual Dr who monitored him saw no problem. I think the jerking off in the basement I will leave to you. There is no context whatsoever for those readings and there is nothing worrisome there."I take guys blood pressures all the time" ummm, no you don't
I would like to know how you know he was resting. Since he was still trying to lose weight, it's very likely he was not simply resting.I'd like to know how a healthy athlete has 140 RESTING.
That's a winning argument.Since I've been shit on in other threads for saying Lee should have never fought with his staph
High yes, but not so high as to warrant the fight called off. It warrants further monitoring. If anyone can show evidence this did not occur then they have a point.Still, 132-152 is high no matter what scenario you imagine.
His heart was beating fast because he was dehydrated with hypovolemia. That causes his blood pressure to drop. When blood pressure drops, Cardiac output drops i.e. you will not get enough blood to the organs.
To compensate for such low blood volume, the body increases the heart rate to make the heart pump harder and get blood to the system.
Also, you produce renin which will lead to angiotensin 2 which will retain salt to increase blood volume, produce ADH to minimize water loss, and constrict your peripheral blood vessels to force more blood back to the heart.
Plus the guy had an active infection which leads to inflammation and the loss of water from the blood.
If you go to an emergency room like Kevin was on that fight night, you will be pumped with so much IV fluids, and definitely not allowed to fight.
These UFC/NSAC doctors will get you killed for peanuts. LOL
I work with psychiatric patients.I was putting the BP into context, because while it's low, it's not alarmingly so. The thing is that coupled with the heart rate it rasies some red flags. I agree, it's all about the context, which is why you can't compare it to your patients (what is your profession?)
I asked. Most people said stfu it doesn't matter (not all). We have no context for the readings that I have seen.When exactly were these tests taken? Was he cutting weight? Because we know Lee cuts insane weight.
C'est la Sherdog!I asked. Most people said stfu it doesn't matter (not all). We have no context for the readings that I have seen.
Sorry, you're just wrong. 25 patients every day, at least once a shift, sometimes Q4 Q2 or every hour, for the past 8 years, I have taken well over 50,000 BP readings since I do ortho on everyone whether it's ordered or not. Not only am I right, the actual Dr who monitored him saw no problem. I think the jerking off in the basement I will leave to you. There is no context whatsoever for those readings and there is nothing worrisome there.
I guess your vast experience as a Dr working with fighters makes you an expert though, mind sending your Resume in to the AC, I look forward to you getting hired.