Getting rid of weight cutters

That's a horrible plan. People don't just conviently walk around at 170 155 205 exactly. In almost every case even if it's only a pound or two fighters have to cut weight. Having fighters cut or bulk up in fightday is just crazy. Every fight would look like Derrick Lewis

Just a guess but is that ManRam in Game 2 of the 2007 ALDS after hitting the walkoff HR against KRod?
 
they need a method of measuring and recording the fighter's weight over a sustained period of time, such as a week, and use the results to classify the fighter. Whatever the fighter is able to sustain healthfully over a sustained period of time is the weight class that fighter should be in.

they will just cut weight for that week.

nobody has thought of anything not already thought of by boxing and wrestling over the past 100 years, nothing is going to change in any weight-based sport
 
not down to the weight they cut for 2 minutes right now.

you missing point, if you tell a guy you want them to prove they can maintain a weight for a week they will just cut/diet hardcore for that week testing period. Asking a guy to be at fight weight for a week is ridiculous and would never happen. At that point you might as well just remove weight classes since guys weight fluctuates differently between fights.
 
Doesn't work in a sport where guys walk around fat, and get in shape for camp. You're moving the average fighter up two weight classes that way

Examples in another professional sport where this didn't work?
 
Jesus fucking christ..some of the responses in this thread:confused:

I didn't think i need to clear this up, but the OP wasn't a definitive suggestion, the question at the end of the post was not a satirical one, was honestly asking what drawbacks do people see in cutting out the weight cut method.

So to summarise the actual reasonable posts:

- there would be short term chaos in terms of belts...but would it? If let's say most fighters have to move up a division to fight at "walk around weight" just make them instant champions of set division. If the champion of set division is already there at walk around weight, just make these 2 champions fight...champions should defend their belts anyway. Or simply just have it written in their legacy that they won a belt at a lower weight class, when weight cutting was still aloud. It wouldn't be something bad, and only a idiot would look down upon it. (rules change in sports all the time, Pride rules != UFC rules)

- The problems of weight cutting start at a much lower level, so first maybe they should start to tackle the issue there, so future generations of MMA fighters come up with a different mentality?

Also another side note on the belts issue, its not like there's a set of rules in place atm that clearly states how a challenger get awarded a title shot. The only real drawback for current champions would be if they would loose PPV points, the belt atm means nothing more then that, since they hand them out like cookies anyway. So just let the people who worked hard for their PPV points, have them for their next fight as well, problem solved.
 
you missing point, if you tell a guy you want them to prove they can maintain a weight for a week they will just cut/diet hardcore for that week testing period. Asking a guy to be at fight weight for a week is ridiculous and would never happen. At that point you might as well just remove weight classes since guys weight fluctuates differently between fights.

they can barely sustain the weights they have to cut to for 2 minutes to weigh in now. They won't do it for a week because they can't.
 
they can barely sustain the weights they have to cut to for 2 minutes to weigh in now. They won't do it for a week because they can't.

asking any one in a weight based sport to maintain fight weight for a week straight is ridiculous and would never happen, whether it's healthy or not. Is conor fighting at 155 unhealthy? i don't think so, yet he would never be able to hold 155 for a week
 
lmao that would be awesome, order a PPV, sit back and fight 1 they weigh in at the cage.

Announcer: Didn't make weight! Forfeited! Time for match two!

- fail

Announcer: Let's skip right to fight 3!

Fight 3 and 4 fail to make weight

Bruce Buffer: AND NOW FOR THE MAIN EVENT OF THE EVENING! NVM it's cancelled
 
Maybe i am missing something, but if they do the following:

- step 1: do the normal weight in 1 day before the fight.
- step 2: fighters make weight, proceed to step 3.
- step 3: weight them in right before they go into the octagon, if they miss weight by a large margin (more than 2 - 3 kg tops let say), make them automatically forfeit the fight.

What would the drawbacks of this method be?

This could work but same day weighs in would be better followed by a quick scale weigh in right before entering the cage.

But in order to do this each divisions maximum weight limit will need to be increased by roughly 15lbs to even up to 25lbs for heavier weight classes.

It would be dumb to force WW's to weigh in no more than 170lbs which is technically the WW max limit. Especially considering that your average WW weighs 180lbs to 190lbs.

If you didn't increase each weight classes weight limit then you would force everyone up a weight class. And a new weight class below flyweight would need to exist.

because MW would become the new WW and still exclude big WW who weigh around 190lbs on fight night.

LHW would become the new MW and so on.

Where then would HW go? LHW would have to have a cap put in at say 235lbs or so.
 
lmao that would be awesome, order a PPV, sit back and fight 1 they weigh in at the cage.

Announcer: Didn't make weight! Forfeited! Time for match two!

- fail

Announcer: Let's skip right to fight 3!

Fight 3 and 4 fail to make weight

Bruce Buffer: AND NOW FOR THE MAIN EVENT OF THE EVENING! NVM it's cancelled

I know the average fighter is no genius, but if the rules are changed do you think 99% of them would be stupid enough not to:

Have a camp to get into fight shape;
Keep in fight shape till after the fight?

How fat do you think they can get in a day, if prior to the weight in they had a camp to get into shape?
 
asking any one in a weight based sport to maintain fight weight for a week straight is ridiculous and would never happen, whether it's healthy or not. Is conor fighting at 155 unhealthy? i don't think so, yet he would never be able to hold 155 for a week

Not ridiculous at all. If Mcgregor can't sustain 155lbs, then mcgregor needs to fight at a higher weight.
 
We might as well close the board with this attitude.

And weight cutting IS bad for fighters' health and has no advantages. I am sure there is not a single fighter in the world who enjoys it. The reason it still exists is 1) that nobody came up with a real, workable solution so far, 2) there are fighters who benefit from it by gaining an advantage over their opponents simply by being able to cut more weight and 3) the cost of adjusting (which would be negligable though imo if division champions were not among the big weight cutters).

I agree but they will surely eventually get rid of it.

Just do what I was saying and increase each weight classes maximum weight limit by 15lbs or 25lbs for heavier weight classes like LHW. I think HW should be increased though by only 15lbs. Hw shouldn't be weighing more than 280lbs if they aren't on roids or packing heavy amount of fat.
 
The weight cutting is fine. Let them kill themselves. Or they can be like rumble and cowboy
 
So what's the point of everyone just moving up a weight class? Why would fighters who have worked their way to the belt give up that belt just because some idiot on Sherdog thinks weight cutting is bad?

The point is to remove a potentially detrimental practice from the sport and persevere the health of the fighters.
 
So what's the point of everyone just moving up a weight class? Why would fighters who have worked their way to the belt give up that belt just because some idiot on Sherdog thinks weight cutting is bad?
Because weight cutting is stupid and destructive to quality fights.

Once upon a time certain fighters (mostly wrestlers) did it to gain advantage on their peers who did not have the history cutting weight and who could not handle big cuts. Thus you got fights like Anthony Johnson versus Yoshida. Clear mis matches.

But in todays sport all the top guys do it so there is no longer any advantage and instead only a disadvantage to ALL fighters who all go through debilitating cuts right before a fight.

If instead they all fought at their more natural weight then the debilitating cuts would not be done and everyone would be in better shape come fight time.
 
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