International Germany's Multicultural Experiment: 45% of Migrants Failed German Integration Courses

[Rational Poster]

Today was just an ordinary day, but the bitter disappointment from the massive walking irony that is the self-proclaimed "Rational Poster" , regular Top 3 finalist of the annual W.R Worst Posters Award each and every year, just made it a great day.

That seems like an awfully strange thing to be excited about.

Whatever floats your boat Sean Hannity.

 

[Arkain2K]

Merkel Upsets Just About Everyone With Her EU Refugee Plan
By Patrick Donahue and Jonathan Stearns | February 23, 2018

German Chancellor Angela Merkel came to Brussels armed with a fresh demand that eastern European Union countries accept refugees and ended up sparking criticism from western allies in the bloc.

At her first EU summit since striking a German coalition agreement, Merkel touted the idea of tying generous European regional-development aid for nations such as Poland to their willingness to help house migrants from the Middle East and Africa.

The proposal from the biggest contributor to the EU budget managed to rile easterners and prompted warnings from Luxembourg and Austria about a backlash against Europe. Even the commission, the EU’s executive body, was wary, seeing it as widening the existing rift between east and west.

“If we link the funds to migration questions, then we’ll be punished afterward -- not the governments, but the people,” Luxembourg Prime Minister Xavier Bettel told reporters on Friday in Brussels. “It can be an option, but in my opinion not the best option because then the one who has a problem is the citizen, not the government.”

The dust-up among the EU’s core members highlights the still-open political wounds from the 2015-2016 refugee crisis, which marked the biggest wave of migrants in Europe since the end of World War II and stoked populist forces across the bloc. An EU accord with Turkey in March 2016 helped reduce the flood of arrivals while leaving national governments struggling to reach a deal on how to share the burden of settling the migrants.

A day after she told German parliament that “solidarity isn’t a one-way street,” Merkel told reporters after the meeting that the linkage between development aid and assistance for asylum seekers doesn’t need to be punitive. Additional funds could simply be allocated to countries with greater financial obligations for refugees.

“It doesn’t have to be a negative correlation -- it can also be positive,” Merkel said after the meeting.

But not everyone was convinced. “Solidarity is much more than sheltering refugees,” Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz told reporters earlier in the Belgian capital. “Our goal has to be to stop people at the external border and not always to talk about the distribution.”

These criticisms are on top of entrenched opposition in Poland and Hungary to any EU-mandated requirements on sheltering refugees and feed into the start of a yearlong battle among national governments over the bloc’s budget after Brexit.

France is open to different types of condition attached to aid for EU members, according to a government official, who said that the French priority is to avoid any kind of “fiscal or social dumping” and to ensure respect for the rule of law.

Czech Prime Minister Andrej Babis too said he has “no problem” over tying EU spending to respect for rule of law, adding: “I only have a problem with migration quotas.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...st-about-everyone-with-latest-eu-refugee-plan

 

[Arkain2K]

Greece Refuses to Take Back Refugees from Germany
By Philip Chrysopoulos | Mar 1, 2018

Greece has refused to take back refugees from Germany, in violation of the Dublin Treaty, says Germany’s Passauer Neue Presse.

According to the report, in response to a question by Germany’s Left party (Die Linke), the ministry of the interior replied that Germany had made 2,312 resettlement requests.

However, even though Athens admitted that it was responsible for 81 cases, Greek authorities have so far not taken a single refugee, the ministry was quoted as saying.

The Dublin agreement says that the first country of entry in the EU is responsible for examining asylum applications and granting asylum to those who qualify.

According to the German Agency for Migration and Refugees, a total of 2,735 refugees and migrants currently living in Germany should return to Greece, based on the Dublin Treaty.

The German ministry of the interior criticizes Greek authorities for refusing 95 percent of the cases. It does not explain, however, why Greece does not accept refugees from Germany.

Germany received 3,189 refugees from Greece last year in the context of the so-called reunification of refugee families. They are mostly Syrians, Afghans and Iraqis. Overall, Greece requested the transfer of 5,800 refugees to Germany. German authorities approved 90 percent of the cases.

Greece is not the only country that does not accept taking back refugees from Germany. Since May 2017, Berlin has requested the return of 3,304 refugees and migrants to Hungary, but Budapest has not received any back.

http://greece.greekreporter.com/201...e-refuses-to-take-back-refugees-from-germany/

 

[Bald1]

Merkel Demands ‘Solidarity’ From EU States Balking at Taking in Refugees
By Patrick Donahue and Arne Delfs | February 22, 2018

German Chancellor Angela Merkel fired a warning shot at European Union member states that have balked at sheltering refugees and thrown democratic standards such as the rule of law into question.

A day before an EU summit that will tackle the bloc’s budget planning after the U.K.’s exit, Merkel said in a speech to the German parliament that Brexit offers an “opportunity” to reassess how the EU spends money. Funds should flow to EU members that have joined a bloc-wide plan to take in asylum seekers, she said.

“Solidarity isn’t a one-way street,” Merkel told lawmakers in the lower house in Berlin on Thursday. “It’s the obligation of all member states never to lose sight of the whole -- and that includes respecting the values on which the European Union was built.”

Merkel’s comments were directed at countries such as Hungary and Poland, whose leaders have refused to participate in a proposed system of spreading the burden of sheltering refugees.

As Brexit tears a hole in the EU’s 140 billion-euro ($172 billion) annual budget, Merkel’s caretaker government is seeking to use Germany’s position as the largest net contributor to get wayward members back into line. Its relative power will increase as a result of Brexit, which is set to create a funding gap of about 10 billion euros a year as of 2021.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-offer-u-k-worse-open-skies-deal-after-brexit

This sounds nice :

"A day before an EU summit that will tackle the bloc’s budget planning after the U.K.’s exit, Merkel said in a speech to the German parliament that Brexit offers an “opportunity” to reassess how the EU spends money. Funds should flow to EU members that have joined a bloc-wide plan to take in asylum seekers, she said."

Little podunk Hungary has spent over 1 billion Euros on border protection since Merkel invited the 3rd world in August 2015. That's on a tiny, 200km stretch of land. How in the blue fuck is Italy going to afford patrolling its maritime borders? In other words, when talking about the flow of funds, there's more to it than the housing conversation.

 

[Arkain2K]

Little podunk Hungary has spent over 1 billion Euros on border protection since Merkel invited the 3rd world in August 2015. That's on a tiny, 200km stretch of land. How in the blue fuck is Italy going to afford patrolling its maritime borders? In other words, when talking about the flow of funds, there's more to it than the housing conversation.

The Italians had to wait 5 years to use their voting ballot to voice their frustration, and now I think they have become even bigger euroskeptics than the Brits, thanks to Merkel:

BRUSSELS — More than half of the Italians who cast ballots on Sunday voted for populist parties, largely abandoning the traditional mainstream parties, especially on the center-left, continuing a European trend.

Migration matters

The issue continues to disrupt and inflame European politics, including in Germany, Greece, the Netherlands and now Italy. With Greece, Italy has borne the brunt of recent large movements of refugees and migrants into Europe from places such as Afghanistan, Libya and Syria.

There is a strong feeling that the mainstream parties have no answer and that Italy got little help from the European Union in Brussels or from other member states. Once Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany cut off the migrant flow through Central Europe by doing deals with Turkey, neither Berlin nor Brussels seemed to care any more, and a European policy on migration is still unresolved.

“There was a sense in Italy of total abandonment over migration, which didn’t become a crisis until Germany suffered, and then stopped being one,” said Mark Leonard, director of the European Council on Foreign Relations.

The paradox of Italy’s reaction is that it comes late; in many ways the crisis is receding from its peak, as Italy and the rest of Europe have cut migrant smuggling routes and made themselves more unwelcoming. But, not having had an election in five years, this was the first time Italians had been offered a chance to voice their frustration.

Southern Europe is still angry

And it is angry at the European Union, in particular France and Germany, for a perceived lack of solidarity on the euro and on immigration and refugees.

There was a warning when Alexis Tsipras won in Greece during the height of the euro debt crisis, with his promises to change the European Union. And while he got slapped down by Brussels and became somewhat tamed in the national interest, anti-European feelings are alive in the southern countries of the bloc, as well as in the authoritarian-lite governments of Central and Eastern Europe.

The Italians voted largely for parties that are euroskeptic, and while no one expects Italy to leave the European Union or the eurozone, any government that emerges is likely to be much more hostile about eurozone reform, about an easy ride for Britain as it tries to untangle itself from the European Union, or about trying to discipline Hungary or Poland, Mr. Rahman said.

“All the fissures that Europe faces will be exacerbated by this government,” he said.

Leaders in Brussels and Paris would have been heartened earlier on Sunday when the Social Democrats in Germany voted to remain in a coalition government with Ms. Merkel, keeping her in power and allowing Germany to try to work with Mr. Macron on overhauling the eurozone. But that may be harder after the Italian vote.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/05/world/europe/italy-election.html

 

[Bald1]

The Italians had to wait 5 years to use their voting ballot to voice their frustration, and now I think they have become even bigger euroskeptics than the Brits, thanks to Merkel:



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/05/world/europe/italy-election.html

It seems there are two factions emerging in the EU - the border states and those unwilling to house migrants, and the insulated northern ones. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[MicroBrew]

So it is 201 to 11.

Isn't the warroom supposed to be a cabal of Liberals?

 

[MicroBrew]

The Italians had to wait 5 years to use their voting ballot to voice their frustration, and now I think they have become even bigger euroskeptics than the Brits, thanks to Merkel:



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/05/world/europe/italy-election.html

Good on the Greeks to refuse being bullied into take these refugees/economic migrants. Greece already has to deal with Muslim Turks in Cyprus, and now the E.U. wants to saddle them with more 5th column Muhammedans. Fcukin E.U. elites, backstabbing Europeans to satisfy some globalist elites and whatever designs they have.

 

[Billy no mates]

Good on the Greeks to refuse being bullied into take these refugees/economic migrants. Greece already has to deal with Muslim Turks in Cyprus, and now the E.U. wants to saddle them with more 5th column Muhammedans. Fcukin E.U. elites, backstabbing Europeans to satisfy some globalist elites and whatever designs they have.

The Greeks will do as they're told he (or she) who pays the piper calls the tune , so eventually the Greeks will have to dance .

 

[Arkain2K]

So it is 201 to 11.

Isn't the warroom supposed to be a cabal of Liberals?

What are you implying, that WR Liberals are supposed to be against Germany’s interior minister Thomas de Maiziere's idea of integration and assimilation or something?

Who are those insane people you speak of? Feel free to tag them directly, if they actually exists.

 

[Bacco]

The Dublin agreement says that the first country of entry in the EU is responsible for examining asylum applications and granting asylum to those who qualify./

Wich was bullshit, as only EU states that actually form the EU borders will be the ones to get the "duty", while the central/north ones will have no obligation

Meanwhile central/north ones are exactly the ones that triggered the MASS invasion promising free $$$/homes/blondes

They wanted third world to come to europe, they should be the ones get all third worlders

Italy/Greece/east europe being in the middle between nordic cucklands and third world is just geography

 

[Arkain2K]

 

[The ScorpioN]

Can anybody give some cliffs on the Italian election?

Who won and on what platform?

 

[Arkain2K]

Can anybody give some cliffs on the Italian election?

Who won and on what platform?

An epic battle of Corruption vs. Uselessness. Very amusing to watch. Like a slow-moving trainwreck, but the train is full of funny clowns.

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/italy-elections-on-sunday-populist-victory.3719811/

 

[Bacco]

Can anybody give some cliffs on the Italian election?

Who won and on what platform?

Has been as expected a 3 players game

right-wing team
they got most votes in total

indipendent single party
was the most voted single party, not far from the whole right team

left-wing team
got left way behind others two

Problem is you need a 40% to have a government, and neither "winners" have it

They will either find a way to fill that gap (right is closer to it) soon enough or there will be a new vote

Problem is both A and B want a strong leadership over others so an alliance between them (the most desiderable outcome actually, and the one that will reflect best our vote) seem unlikely and far

Due to this there's the risk they will search these extra % from C wich most italians don't want see having any part in the government
Of course they will be a minority into it, but still none>minority

 

[Arkain2K]

Angela Merkel’s government is embroiled in its first row barely two days after being sworn in, with the chancellor and her interior minister arguing publicly about the incendiary issue of Islam’s place in German society.

Speaking to the mass circulation Bild Zeitung, the former prime minister of Bavaria said Muslims living in Germany “of course” belonged to the country, but their religion itself did not. We must do everything to ensure that religions successfully coexist Angela Merkel He said Germans should “not give up [their] country-specific traditions and customs out of a false sense of consideration” for other cultures. “Muslims must live with us, not alongside or against us,” he said.

Ms Merkel swiftly criticised Mr Seehofer, saying that Germany was shaped by Christianity, but it was home to millions of Muslims, too, who “also belong to Germany, as does their religion, Islam”.

“We must do everything to ensure that religions successfully coexist,” she said.

 

[Arkain2K]

 

[MicroBrew]

What are you implying, that WR Liberals are supposed to be against Germany’s interior minister Thomas de Maiziere's idea of integration and assimilation or something?

Who are those insane people you speak of? Feel free to tag them directly, if they actually exists.

Well the warroom's has left leaning and right leaning posters . Some times the ideological split is more towards 1 side and sometimes it swings back and other times it is about even. So my point was that the votes should be more even.

 

[forum poster]

So even after the massive flood in immigration, Germany still has a lower percentage of Muslims and than Russia? As well as a much lower crime rate than even most 1st world countries?

 

[snakedafunky]

Ah, come on now Horst. Finally made it to Berlin and has to spill this BS.
I actually liked a lot of what the CSU brought into the coalition especially capping family reunions and the total number of refugees.

But this stuff is just not correct. You might have no Muslims in a small Bavarian village.
But there is a considerable amount of the German population that is of German blood and born in the Fatherland that happened to be Muslims.
It is certainly a part of Germany.