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The rematch is on for May 31st. Let's see if toughness saves Froch again, or if Groves comes in even better prepared than last time.
I first posted it in the "Training of a Viking" thread.
P.S. - A lot of people have asked me over time about watching/analyzing bouts. With this thread you're seeing a bout through my eyes. Should give you an idea of what I look for when I watch any bout. Or even when I study opposing fighters.
Recently ESPN has doing this "Boxcino" tournament, and there was a guy in the Middleweight division who I remembered around here. Young kid, physically strong, when he was here at Tocco's he was 14-0 with like 12 KO's. Also got his hands on a regional Title. But immediately something stood out when he sparred with our guy Anthony Lenk who was a Welterweight at the time. Check out just the one round:
So from reading the initial post the things you look for are:
Who takes control becoming Digger A
The stances I.e I know your a advocate of "looking threatening" with the lead hand causing them to hesitate
Lead Foot Pointing towards opponent at all times
How they fight on the inside? I.e You've said in the past putting the ear muffs on is lazy and not an effective inside defence!
This is a very general list of things picked up by me someone with limited technical striking knowledge but that's what I can remember from reading!
Is there one most important factor or does it vary from fight to fight?
Sorry if this is a dumb Q
What's going on with Anthony Lenk? I see he lost his last two and only fought once in 2013. He looks very good in that sparring video.
He's done. He ran into managerial trouble after the loss to Williams (which was a very close fight that was changed to a 6 rounder instead of 8 2 weeks before the fight, Anthony was coming on strong at the end but it wasn't enough). His manager fired his trainer, so he semi-retired then. It took him a while to get rid of the manager, and then as a sort of last go he fought Vasquez in Texas, everyone who saw the fight say Anthony won it, but he was in the other guy's backyard. He's now retired and works for Amtrack in NY.
Man I hated watching that fight. Froch just has so many things he does incorrectly.
Looking threatening, but making use of the initiative it gives. Looking isn't enough, I want to see that the opponent actually feels threatened. And yes, how they behave inside. There's no one more important factor than anything else, but it's how they all fit together..
Can I ask what you actually look for on the inside then? If those are the things you for then I know there's a thread you made on stance/positioning of lead hand so I'll check that for that.
Don't think there's one on infighting so what do you look for? Is it mainly defence qualities, I know you dislike earmuffs like Groves did against the ropes in 5-6. Who are the best in fighters? Someone like Mayweather?
ALSO
How did you score this fight? Based on the criteria I know you look for I saw Groves being the digger and catching Froch with good upward jabs in first 4 Rounds with Froch blitzing on occasions, coming in feet standing square and not really landing anything!
I had Groves up 4-0
Then again looking for things that you say I gave Froch the next two based on him getting the better work in on the ropes and Groves just 'earmuffed' up instead of using intelligent defence and counters, So I had it 4-2 Groves after 6!
Was very surprised when Jim Watt 's card came up and he had it 5-1 Froch and even more so that he gave Froch ROUND 1?!? I only remember Carl landing 1 punch in round 1!!
Then I thought Groves won 7 and was winning 8 Until the KO!