Floyd Mayweather vs Tommy Hearns 147 | Page 5

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  1. Oscaraps Brown Belt

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    I agree with you 100, it's very interesting getting the perspective of someone who saw it live. Like I said before I think people are severely underestimating the competition these guys fought especially someone like Benitez.
     
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    Leonard had very very good defense when he wanted to , he had a different style from Floyd definitely more aggressive at times. i always said it before Floyd has some elite defense but what makes him so great is his adaptability, it's not like people haven't cracked him before... but the way he adapts in the middle of fights is a thing to behold
     
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    I'll tell it to ya'll like this...........if any of the fab 4 were in the welterweight division, guys like Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather would've stayed in the lightweight divisions.

    It's only because this was a historically weak period ongoing in the WW division, coupled with the arrival of two ATG lightweight fighters, in Paquiao n Floyd, that we had this situation. These guys knew there was enough a skill disparity to overcome that size disadvantage.
    Then other Junior WWs like Bradley, Khan, Berto, Ortiz, Garcia and now Crawford have followed them in.
    Basically, the WW division is actually the Super LW / JWW division.

    It'll all straighten back out when the good big guys return. That's one of the reasons why Errol Spence is creating so much fear in there.

    IMO
     
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  4. Oscaraps Brown Belt

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    I forgot to mention something too, these guys were fighting 15 rounds and fighting a LOT more often than say someone like Floyd. That has got to count for something
     
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    I don't think the 15 or 12 rounds would be a issue with Floyd / manny.
     
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    The 15 rounds with the amount of fights they had around the time ? I'm not saying that would make them worse fighters but I think the wear and tear would be a lot more, Hearns, Duran and hagler all ended up with a lot of fights, heck Duran ended with over 100. I do understand that also has to do with how the sport evolved though
     
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  7. Seano Hands of bone

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    Ray didn't. Ray had less fights than Floyd. Hearns really didn't either. He only had like 10 more fights than Floyd over a 30 year career.
     
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    That's why I didn't list ray ... but Hearns had sixty plus, same as hagler and Duran had 100 plus. Not saying that to crap on Floyd, I think floyds style is built to last if anything just pointing that out...someone like Duran had a LOT of wear and tear Considering his style
     
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  9. Seano Hands of bone

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    Sixty plus in 30 years. Floyd had 50 in just over 20.
     
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    Floyd is slowing down a lot. If he had continued fighting real opponents after berto he might have picked up a loss.
     
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  11. Hagler Man of wealth and taste

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    I think that's part of Floyd's fight IQ and professionalism. The guy never took a fight with the slightest shadow of doubt he wouldn't be physically fit enough to win. He obviously lost a step lately but he knew very well he wouldn't need 100% of his former self to beat Connor. I don't think he'd beat a top WW or SWW right now. And who cares ? He's 40, and retired.
     
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    No doubt at all. Just an observation
     
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  13. Hagler Man of wealth and taste

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    We do agree on his slowing down anyway. I was kind of embarrassed at times when he looked sloppy as hell against Connor.
     
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    Agreed. I think its probably a good thing for his sake he fought berto instead of triple g

    Great fighter. He was smart enough to realize he was at that point and retired. Good for him
     
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    I wouldn't have wanted to see another legend jumping weights at the end of his career. Floyd would've been the favorite and gennady doesn't strike me as someone who would show up in anything but the best shape he could and push the pace.
     
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  16. Hagler Man of wealth and taste

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    Mexican style, fo sho'.
     
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    GGG would've Plancquiaoed Mayweather.
    Maybe even SubZeroed him ......FINISH HIM.......uppercut to spinal rip.......huhuhuhuh.......FATALITY.

    The Berto / McNugget fights showed that.
     
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    Tough fight, but Floyd is a boxing magician, so I've learned to never doubt him.
     
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    I think Floyd would probably be better over 15 rounds than over 12.
     
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  20. proncley White Belt

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    Yea I don't think anyone (including Robinson, Leonard, Hearns) could get a clear decision over him in a 15 rounder. He would either win or make it at least razor close, unless he gets knocked out.
     
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