Fines for Eye Pokes...

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  1. DaPunkMinowaMan

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    In the Early UFCs, IIRC the fine was something like 500$ (huge at that time, comparatively)...

    Would it help?

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    Intent needs to be obvious or else it would be unfair to fine them.
     
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    Yes, taking money from their purse for eye pokes and groin shots is only fair. $500 deduction per foul would make fighters a lot less likely to make those fouls.
     
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    Screw it make it legal and let's see where it takes the UFC in 2018
     
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    Should just make iron clad that you get one warning, then immediate point deduction.
     
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    If it was 100% of their full pay per poke, maybe.

    Otherwise, not in the slightest.

    Coke Jones would happily shell out a mil per eyepoke and keep on delivering them, because it's worth it.
     
  9. DaPunkMinowaMan

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    That´s why I said:

    "500$ (huge at that time, comparatively)"
     
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    Sure, but I'm telling you, 10k or 50k or 100k is nothing to the elite fighters these days.
    100k to change the course of a fight? A great buy.
    The fines would have to be massive...which becomes pretty unfair to someone who accidentally delivers one.
     
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    not only elite fighters, all fighters.
     
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    To the balls for first offense, 30% of purse for second (goes to opponent) DQ for a third foul.
     
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    Which fighter is scoffing at 100k where he wouldn't even the difference between that and no penalty? We can't go back and forth between "fighters get paid shit and need a union" and "fighters get paid so much they wouldn't notice a 100k fine".
     
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    there's no solution for the eye poking problem. it's just part of the game. and since the majority of them are accidental, fining someone isn't fair
     
  16. DaPunkMinowaMan

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    ure right... he´s talkin´about elite [rich] fighters...
     
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    Actually, in those early UFCs with those fines, u had almost none...
     
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    I've never understood why they give so many warnings. In every other sport, they don't need to prove intent to actually get penalized for breaking the rules. Imagine a football game where a guy got a warning for pass interference. I get that a point is substantial so I can kind of see the argument for ONE warning, only IF it's obvious that it was an accident, but at the same time, I think that if it was an immediate point removal, you would almost neversee an eye poke.
     
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    hard to compare the early ufc to nowadays though. different game. different striking. not many jabs or feinting jabs in the early years.
     
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    This thread is BS
     
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